I always work with Outliner open to keep track of group hierarchies. And, until SU2023, I have been able to select a group for editing by double clicking on the ‘black box’ beside the group name in Outliner; it’s a great way for me to ensure that the editing is happening in the correct group.
SU2023 seems to have dropped that feature and my work-around is to select the group/right click/Edit Group.
I know it’s not a big issue but it’s driving me mad. Any ideas?
The outliner no longer reacts as before and it is no longer useful as it is.
Selection by drawing a rectangle => no
Right click on a partial selection => no
right click on a complete selection => yes while holding the SHIFT key
Not to mention the instability of its anchorage and dimension.
All fixed now - thanks. Although. my Windows anti-virus objected to the download and install of the latest SU version; I had to turn off the anti-virus to to facilitate the process; I didn’t enjoy that.
Testing the 23.0.397 Outliner. Still a few bugs left. See pic
Up to SU 2023, if you select an object in the viewport, the hierarchy in the outliner would expand so you see the selected object in the hierarchy. In 2023 the hierarchy remains as before. Any modeller would need the feedback to be sure they are selecting the right object.
There is bug that reverts named groups back to Group when doing this:
1…3 shift select a few objects in the viewport
4 shift select an object in the outliner to add to the selection
Result: the first three obejcts that were selected are renamed Group again.
For anyone who’s workflow is based on working with named groups (instead of tags), this issue will keep them in SU22.
I too rely on Group names for navigation. And I too am going mad with Outliner renaming my groups to ‘Group’. I’m thinking that the SU2023 was a bit premature or, are these teething problems common with a new release?
Did you change the instance name in Entity Info? When groups are created the default name has always been “group”. On the other hand, components have a unique name assigned at creation, the user has the option of changing it. It also can be changed in eEntity Info.
Yes indeed. In Outliner based workflow (as an alternative to using ‘layers’), upon creating a group or component you immediately give it a new name that makes sense like ‘foundation’ or ‘windows’ etc. This bug that renames all selected groups back to ‘group’ is a nightmare.
shift click will select all between the first and the second selection.
say I have a list, I select number 2, and shift click number 10. all elements from 2 to 10 will be selected. Now I realise I forgot to take number 1, if I shift click 1, it’ll select from 2 (the original click) to 1. and deselect 3-10
Whereas cmd click let you add one element at a time to a selection.
In the end, I probably use a combo, shift for the bulk, cmd for the detail
The outliner in '23 is much harder to work with than previous versions. If you like to keep track of what you are working on it’s much more difficult. You can’t click out of the outliner in the whitespace any more to get out of everything and the “collapse all” function only works if you are at the bold text at the top of the outliner. Since SU '20 the outliner has gotten harder and harder to use every year.