Disappointing experience on switching to SU23

Here are some of the bad experiences I had after updating from v22 to v23.

On opening a group by double clicking on it in the drawing, the group does not open in outliner anymore.

Double clicking an entity in outliner in order to open it for editing does not work anymore.

Selecting a list of entities on the same level in outliner (click first one, shift-click last one) in order to rename them or make them a group etc. does not work anymore. You now have to cltr-click each entity separately.

Moving selected groups/entities from one group to another in outliner does not work any more (you now can only move one single group or entity at a time).

Right-clicking selected groups/entities in outliner in order to make them a group etc. does not work anymore (you now have to right-click one of the selected entities in the drawing to do this).

On exploding a group in outliner by right-click, the parent group closes instead of staying open. Furthermore, sometimes the names of the exploded child-groups/entities change to “group” (1x undo repairs this).

Typing ctrl-z repeatedly used to “undo” as many steps. This does not work anymore: only one undo is possible (now one has to revert to button-bar).

Something is wrong in indicating the material assigned to an entity. After changing the material of a nested enti-ty, the parent entity shows the same change of material for considerable time until it corrects itself.

Don’t know if some of those changes were made deliberately (like maybe the first one mentioned) or are bugs, they annoy me to the max. I am using SU since 2007, always with great pleasure and satisfaction, but this enthu-siasm lately waned considerably because of the little progress made in developing (not listening to the many suggestions/complaints made by users) and specially now the things I mentioned above are seriously hampering my workflow.

I speedily returned to v22, hoping things will be better in the next bug-release.

p.s. Also very annoying for years: After entering an entity-name in the entity tray, giving “Enter” does not close the name-field.

  1. Replace component doesn’t work (well sometimes it does, other times not).
  2. Keeps crashing without any recent save back-up, lost tonnes of work from this.
  3. When opening a model with shadows on, shadow button will appear as off. You must turn on shadows, then turn off again to get shadows to turn off.
  4. New flip tool quite useful, but not worth spending any time on it.
  5. No significant speed improvements noticeable.
  6. Sketch Up 2022 wins

Do you get a bugsplat? Do you add identifying info and submit it?

Hi RLGL, Yes I do on some occasions, but other times I just close the window, open V22 and start my work again. My colleague has uninstalled V23 altogether, he’s done this so that when opening Sketch Up by selecting an existing drawing he’ll be straight into V22, his strategy is to wait for the bugs to be fixed before he re-installs V23.

Next time I get a bug splat, I’ll screen snip the report and add it to this thread.

Rather fill in your e-mail address and click the Send button.

Ok thanks Anssi, I’ll do that.

Yes, the Entity Info inspector has a refresh bug. This has been reported to Devs.

They are unintentional bugs that got past the GUI migration to the Qt framework.
The ultimate goal is for parity with the old GUI as it was using the ol’ MFC libraries.

Sketch Up 2023 and Layout 2023, styles not updating.
The issue seems to be random, I’m loosing faith in Sketch Up, it used to be such a solid tool!

You see on your screenshot, next to the red cross you’ve drawn on the right side ?

there is a Background option to tick. if you tick it, you have a background (grey in your case)
here it’s unticked. so transparent, no grey.

it’s been here for a few years now

Thanks Atelienab, I knew about that option but didn’t see it. I must have Sketch Up 2023 rage!

I apologise Sketch Up!

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I wonder if you can help with an issue I’ve noticed between Sketch Up 2023 and Layout 2023?

I’ve set up my Layout file, I’m happy with how it all looks. I go back to Sketch Up to make an amendment of the design, I save and update model reference in Layout. Layout updates but shifts position of the drawing/s. The shift is usually quite small but its enough to cause a session of re-working to put everything back as I wanted.

I did not notice this in Sketch Up 2022.

Am I doing something wrong?