I think the issue of Outliner renaming my ‘groups’ when a multiple selection is made is intolerable.
The workaround is obvious; ‘STOP selecting multiples in Outliner’ I hear, but my muscle memory is excluding the obvious as an option. I am wasting so much time with this; the naming of Groups is fundamental to my workflow.
I’m just wondering if any in the SU community is bothered by this new feature and does anyone have an inkling about Trimble’s attitude to the issue.
Like you, my workflow totally depends on using named groups in the Outliner so It’s a big deal to me as well. My ‘fix’ is; I don’t use 2023.
It will be fixed at some point but there’s no saying how long it will take. A first update for 2023 was released a week ago so I guess it will take a few months before a next round of fixes is released…
You don’t need to go back to 2022 from 2023 to get around the renaming of multiple selections in ‘Outliner’ and give up on other new features of 2023. Just go ahead and click each group you want to add to the multiple selection. When the names change to ‘Group’ don’t freak out just yet. Just hit Ctrl+Z and the original names return and they are all selected. Now do what you want with them.
O wonder if the sketchup team is aware of this bug. I don’t know why but it affects only windows machines, on MacOS I can’t replicate this bug, I use both OS, but I’ve been using more my Mac since there is another bug on layout for windows, it crashes every time I try to add a keyboard shortcut on the preferences.
I do appreciate this suggestion but its not a workable procedure in a working environment. It would be a (hopefully) temporary confusion of my muscle memory and I rather stick to SU 2022 while the Trimble team is fixing this bug.
I’m kind of new here so I don’t know, but is there an official way to report bugs? Many software’s have one.
@Willo58 , I’d like to see it fixed as well. It’s funny how our brains work though. I primarily use 3ds Max, Photoshop, Ironcad, After Effects and SketchUp now. Somehow, when I’m in each one my brain adapts and I use shortcuts for each one even as they are all different. Adding this one workaround, while just more to think about, is not too bad, but it’s still disruptive. I wish I could create a shortcut key for ‘Rename.’ It is a pain to right click and have to go all the way to the bottom to click on ‘Rename.’
I couldn’t find an exact bug report that says groups get renamed. I see the 23.0.1 release had three Outliner related fixes, including one to do with renaming not working properly.
I tried the steps you gave in the latest build I had, and didn’t see any problems. I reinstalled the version you have, and still don’t get the problem. First I shift-select three groups in the scene, where I have named the groups a, b, c, d, e, then I shift-click on d in Outliner, and it becomes selected as well. No renaming happens.