Hello,
I’d like to ask about using Sketchup 2017 make for internal business purposes. I’m carpenter and need it for preparing orders of materials, making concepts of furnitures, elements lists and so on. I will not sell any of created models or rendered pictures, but obviously I’ll sell furnitures itselfs, designed in Sketchup. Can I consider it as internal business purposes and use software for free?
Regards
You should have legal counsel for this. No one here, especially Trimble employees. are allowed to give legal interpretation of the EULA. The way I read it, what you propose is still commercial use of the software. Using 2017 Make that way would put you in violation of the EULA.
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You won’t get an answer from sketchup on this, they would never comment.
You could ask a lawyer to read and interpret the terms and give you an answer.
But, you could save yourself the business cost of a lawyer by reading your own post and thinking about it. Does the use of the software enable you to earn money, if so you are using it for commercial purposes and should use Pro.
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Thank You for replies.
I found the EULA text a bit confusing. Especially part “Non-commercial use means that you may not sell, rent, or lease the output of the Software.” And term “your internal business purposes” is not obvious for me.
Nevertheless I agree, that using software would improve and speed up the design part of my commercial work, although the final product isn’t any of Sketchup’s output.
Perhaps having legal counsel is good idea to dispel the doubts.
Thank’s again
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You’re asking on the official sketchup forum. Everything you have described is commercial use.
The chair in your office is commercial use, the coffee, the paper, the wood you use in your workshop are part of the business but you don’t sell any of those things directly, they are what makes up your commercial enterprise.
You use all of those things to create a product which you sell, they are all tax deductible. They are the cost of doing business.
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I’m not a lawyer so this is only my opinion. The way it reads to me is that you actually are selling the output of the software. It’s part of what goes into producing the furniture you sell.
It definitely is. Might cost you less to just go ahead and get a licese for SketchUp Pro, though.
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But if you ask nicely I’m sure we can organise some cracked software.
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Hi,
Every software that is used for your professionnal work is considered as commercial use. Some years ago my company refused to install free softwares whenever there was a commercial version of it for that specific reason.
I believe commercial goes versus personal.
I know you are joking, but that’s unfair. Unowen is asking because he wants to do it right.
And you cannot crack the EULA.
Ha ha 
That’s nice of You. Although my intention is to use software fully legally. Sketchup’s old version with its limitation seemed a good alternative for expensive software dedicated for furniture large busineses. Though the main advantages came from free extension OpenCutList.
I accept all arguments. Thank You for your attention and time.
Thank You for understanding.
Regards to all.
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Use SketchUp2017 for free and see if it works out.
If it helps you in your business - sign up for Pro.
So you are suggesting he violate the EULA for awhile. Great advice. 
The Pro 30-day free trial ought to be quite enough for anyone to determine “if it works out”. Original trial time when I started with version 3 was 8 hours. I needed about 15 minutes to get to the “I want this” decision.
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I have SketchUp 2017 - make version installed on PC and I’ve tried it out with OpenCutList for couple of days to see if it suits me. It’s not a problem for me to pay for a software I would find useful. I just don’t like the idea of corporates selling only subscriptions without perpetual licenses. I need software i would stick to for a years - constant and reliable. There is no guarantees that price of SketchUp won’t increase significantly in a year or two. The customers are dependent on Trimble’s will. If corporation would like to change interface completely (it happened in a past with Autocad for example), the customers will have to get used to and learn it all over again. After research i found Pro100 witch is dedicated for furniture designing with perpetual license. The prices is equal to 3 years of SketchUp’s subscription, and I can use it later on with no more extra costs and certainty that it will work the same all the time.
Downpayment of 489 +14 months 149= 2575
I would say that’s about 8,5 years of SketchUp Pro, I hope they have a good cost estimator included😅
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Not sure if we’re talking about the same software of Ecru. It’s 1225 USD vs about 400 of SketchUp year subscription (price in my country including tax)
I checked it and turned out that price of PRO100 in USA is for some reason twice higher than in Poland. That’s the cause of confusion.
I know what you’re saying, Dave. Anssi, too.
Unowen is a small business proprietor. This is more a way of life than an occupation.
By way of example, on the 16th March 2010, I submitted a patent application using Forever Free SketchUp drawings. Was this commercial use? Obviously, I hear you cry.
Today, I am in the process of submitting another patent application, and at my age and with the benefit of hindsight, I think it is nearer the truth to say that my usage is better described as delusional, rather than commercial.
Accordingly, I am more inclined to say that it is not until Mr Unowen cashes his cheques as a result of using SketchUp that he should worry about commercial use.
From what he describes, he already seems to have a going business.
But a business is a commerical concern even if it is a way of life. That doesn’t provide an exception that makes it correct for the user to violate the EULA.
Extending your logic, I stole car but I did it so I can take my grandmother to go see the Grand Canyon so it’s not really stealing.
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