I will try that but I just imported this into Rhino and it was lighting fast when I ran it through their Layout feature with dimensions and notes. If Rhino can handle the polygons, why not Sketchup?
I create whatever I need to do get the job done. The 3d screen redraws made it impossible to use. Everyone I know has a workflow that begins with Rhino…
Layout on my Mac is a spinning beach ball festival and there is no fix coming or even an admission of a problem.
I was only pointing out the incorrect tag usage in the SketchUp model. That can cause you problems and make your model very difficult to work with. It sounds like you are fine with that so I’ll leave you to it.
Best of luck.
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“incorrect tag usage” please elaborate
I agree that SketchUp isn’t as good with huge numbers of polygons compared to Rhino, Blender, Revit, and other 3D software. That’s true. Can’t argue with that.
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Yes, I love efficiency!
One thing that I feel went backward for speed/efficiency, though. I used to be able to copy (Ctrl+C) a sketchup model from one page and paste it (Ctrl+V) onto another page in Layout right after I clicked on that page in the “Pages” tray. Now I have to click onto the “Paper Space” (is that the correct term?) before I can tap Ctrl+V and have the model pasted in place.
Otherwise, I’m liking the improvements/changes I’ve expericed so far. Thanks!
Edit here… 1 day later. I don’t know that I changed any procedure, but the problem I mentioned above doesn’t seem to be an issue. I had tried it several times over several days before posting, just to make sure I wasn’t jumping too fast. But now it’s working.
Tagging free geometry. Tags should be applied to groups. All free geometry should be on the default tag “untagged”
Deselecting profile edges as Matt and DaveR suggest will speed things up drastically.
This file structure was done quickly for export after endless slow downs. All my objects are untagged when they are grouped or made a component
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Happy to show you my models that are made Into layouts and they have far more detail in them than this example. This is a demo and NOT a real project. it’s slow and clunky. The model is a rasterized and rather ugly… I do not know what to say other than Trimble has done little to persuade me that Sketchup and Layout is anything but a hobbyist’s program
I do not render colors in my drawings. Also modules need to line up in exact ways that are difficult to create with textures. It’s always vector line work. I always use real materials and a materials board because the colors are never right when a drawing is printed. Let’s see your drawings.
I and many other professionals use it very successfully. You just need to do some more research on how to get the most out of this 3D program.
Attend Basecamp if you can.
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Thanks but no thanks, I just provided what you were asking for…
Can you be any more condescending?
I cannot think of an office here in town that tries to make drawings out of it.
You have an AutoCad way of working, so you should go and subscribe to that. SketchUp will not become AutoCad.
No, actually I do not have “an Autocad way of working.” Have you looked at any of my other files? The sluggish performance of Layout precludes me from setting up the file in 3d the I normally would.
The issue is not my files but why after so much feedback is Layout still so slow? Why is Layout so far behind Rhino when it comes rendering and printing thousands of vectors? Think about it, a video game running on X Box can handle millions of polygons.
Anyway, it is easier to attack me than to say what someone earlier said which is that Sketchup and Layout cannot handle large files like Rhino. Trimble should make that clear.
when someone says that they need to break up a house file–not a big project like an office building–into multiple layout files and jump through all sorts of hoops… I think that speaks volumes about the capabilities of Sketchup.
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The one you posted was 2D linework, and certainly better done in AutoCad.
My apologies if I came across as condescending. That was not my intention. I was responding to your comment that it is only a hobbyist program. I’m a licensed professional using SU for 20 years now. So there are professionals using it.
Not sure which town you are in, but you are probably correct as people using SU and LO to produce construction docs are the minority.
I used ACAD for 20+ years starting with version 2.3. All software has there bugs. Acad crashes, Rhino produces hideous 2D drawings. Revit is powerful but a bear. LO has issues vector rendering high poly counts and large high res textures. There is no perfect solution. You just have to pick your poison.
SU is quick and intuitive. LO definitely has its issues, but once you set it up, it’s very quick. Speed all comes down to 3D model management in SU and how you portray that in LO. Yes, I use multiple files in LO, but we did the same with ACAD, especially on the larger projects, allowing multiple drafters to work on a single project. It’s more efficient to focus on particular tasks and easier to issue specific drawings to consultants and contractors. The files are separated by drawing type.
My comment about research is literally that. Search YouTube and see what people do to get the most out of it.
I’m not knocking what you are doing, but clearly SU and LO will not be efficient with your current approach. Rhino to ACAD would be your better option, although SU & LO would be faster if you utilized textures instead of line work.
I was sincere about Basecamp.
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When I first started making comments/suggestions about LayOut’s inadequacies I didn’t have a sniff of grey in my beard, but now, almost ten years later… 
Trimble (and Google before) just don’t want to ever grasp the LayOut nettle and finally, finally (!!!) fix it. They’ve been promising to do so for so long it’s now nothing short of hilarious (and even an office joke). And we all thought Autodesk was slow in ‘fixing’ Revit’s issues 
Anyway, after 14yrs of using SU, and almost a decade of patiently waiting for Trimble to finally sort LayOut, and also fix SU’s inability to deal with large models/many polygons, I (reluctantly) decided to jump to Rhino. I snapped, I’d finally had enough of the broken promises and could no longer tolerate the inadequacies of the software and glacial pace of Trimble development. And whilst it was a steep learning curve I cannot say I regret it one bit.
For anyone thinking of making the leap, don’t be afraid, see it as adding another string to your bow…and I have no idea what Sonder is on about. Rhino produces superb 2D’s drawings. And it can handle huge models with ease without any idiosyncratic setting-up/modelling approach requirements. None of that, you just model, how you want to, with freedom and abandon if you really want to and it just deals with it without limitation or hinderance. Go on, you know you want to.
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Maybe I just haven’t seen decent output. I have several colleagues that use Rhino. The amount of time it takes them to produce lower quality and less detailed sets is slowly converting them in the opposite direction.
Happy for you that you found something that works for you.
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