Viewport troubles in Layout. The model inside the viewport shifs!

I am kind of new to Layout… I have all my pages set up in Layout and all seemed to be working fine but unfortunately my viewports go funny. The model shifts inside the viewport at random on pages I am NOT working on! So if I go back to see a page that I had completed I find a hot mess.

I believe I am doing all the right things by:

  • not altering the view in SU before updating the scene (otherwise if would result shifted in LO)

  • save the scene, save SU, go to LO and update the model (by right-clicking on viewport / update model reference). I have no issues with this process.

  • still in LO I adjust my viewport, place notes and dimensions, save and move on to the next page.

After working on the next page, following the same process, when I go back to the previous page the model has shifted inside the viewport. As a result I have to adjust the edges of the viewport, the dimensions (that sometimes go completely crazy and have to be redone completely) and all notes. This is driving me mad as you can imaging.

So now I am fixing one page at a time, saving, PDFing and moving on to the next page. When I look back to the previous page it is messed up again. ARGHHH!

What am I doing wrong? Is it me or it’s a bug? Is there a box that I am leaving unchecked somewhere in the deep meanders of LO settings…

Please help!!!

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One question. Are you “double-clicking” on the viewport at some point (a known built-in gotcha)? I don’t think so from your description. Sounds weird.

It would be interesting to see your LayOut file to see if we can sort out what is making things go pear-shaped.

As Peter mentioned if you are changing the view in LO, you could be creating problems for yourself.

The layer (in LayOut) that the SketchUp model is sat on, is that set to set to Shared Layer?

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No I am not. But I know what you mean, if you double click it takes you in to SU. I have in the past and just CTRL-Z it to come out of that and it worked, restoring my viewport as it was before double clicking.

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I just wanted to chime in and say that I have this issue on LO 2022. It is a persistent issue on one of my layout files and I can’t recreate the issue reliably. It is truly mysterious.

The issue comes about when a viewport that has a scale, orthogonal and “preserve scale” is checked. Instead of changing the camera location, it is possible to “pan” by changing the boundaries of the viewport. When I do this on two of my files, I get this issue cropping up. The viewport shifts when the model reference is updated sometimes.

I have a lot of experience using LO, and I don’t know how to fix this one. Looks like a bug.

Unfortunately not a bug. When a model shifts in the view port, it is typically your setup in Sketchup, specifically the camera location in the scenes tray is not checked for the particular scene. If it is not that, then make sure in LO, the viewport when selected is, the correct scene and scale. If preserve scale is not selected, check that after setting the correct scale.

Either of these issues will result in the model shifting in the viewport.

Using a standardized system of templates for both SU and LO will fix this issue from every happening again (assuming the templates are setup correctly from the start).

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You might also try:

  1. Save you Sketchup File
  2. Go to Layout
  3. Select File/Document Setup.
  4. Update your Sketchup to Layout link there.

This issue is a thousand threads old. You think you maybe kept all your attention on not altering the view in the sketchup scene, while maybe managing some tag state changes or some other changes, but its very easy to do just that, updating the scene, without thinking about the zoom/pan state of the scene. Maybe you were focused on sketching, on designing, but thats not the way Layout encourages. Your mind must be totally focused on not shifting the pan or zoom state of the scene. So forget about any “design in focus” approaches. Layout refuses to lock your viewports to where you wanted them, cause that is not what they’re about.