I do not remember any problems. I remember I change my computer, get another, I had no problems to re-install. Now I will be facing new problems I guess…
I will get probably SU2021 for a last M&S year. I certainly do not install it.
About other license and software, for example I can deactivate a licence, uninstall, and re-install and activate on another computer. This is the normal licence policy as expected by customers.
That would have been your active license.
The active license can be transferred and reinstalled perpetually.
If you have traded the active license for a new one, that new version becomes active, and the old one, which you have traded in to get the new one for a discount, can no longer be transferred to a new machine.
This has always been the case (I can go back to my version 5 license from @last:
Because the status say’s ‘Version Upgrade’ I can no longer use it to activate on new machines. I have used it to buy version 6, and then I used that version to trade in version 7 etc.
Again, just like you can with your active version of SketchUp.
On top of that, you can even use the older versions on machines where it has been activated!
With a 
license (that has 
) you are allowed to use older versions (if you have any), but only one at the time.
With SketchUp, on the other hand, if you’re a Mac guy but also bought a Windows render gig where you installed V-ray 3.6 and SketchUp 2018, you can use the latest version of SketchUp on your MacBook and still can use the old V-Ray on your Windows.
So, instead of contributing to this thread, you continuously keep adding more confusing with unfounded statements and wrong assumptions.
That could be seen as flooding and I will flag them as such.
Mind you, your other account has been suspended for the same reasons, I believe? (adding a question mark, so it is not a comment)
I second that it is absolutely critical to have this answer. Thanks for checking.
So you think, long term, Trimble has a “milk it dry, and then dump it” strategy? Very depressing, but maybe true!
why…??
just… why… would … they… do that?
I just realised I have a ‘vintage’ Spectra site setting out laser level in the basement circa 2004.
I don’t know who owned Spectra in 2004 but they are currently owned by Trimble - guess what… Spectra are still in business
Sorry Paul,
I don’t quite understand your quote of me, or your comments …
If you mean why would Trimble adopt such a business approach, my answer is:
For no good or rational reason I can think of! It wouldn’t make good business sense, unless they were terribly short sighted, and were just too big to care?
Rather than just killing it, they might just sell SketchUp after they have extracted their money from the (shrinking) user base. Maybe they would sell it to someone who had more affection and understanding for the product, and would treat us better!
…exactly
Despite my view on the subscription move, I just don’t buy this negative idea of Trimble that is being presented by people in the various threads on this issue
Fair enough!
Do you mean that if one uses the discount for subscription, they will no longer have the Classic License? I didn’t gather that from the offer.
The question at hand is a bit more subtle. If one takes the offer and “converts” their existing license to a subscription, that perpetual license remains active and can be used forever regardless of subscription status on that computer but may be marked as “upgraded” which would prevent reinstalling it on a new machine. Unclear if this is true. If it is, the way around would be to subscribe at full price under separate license and keep the last perpetual version active and transferable. It would make the “offer” something of a trap, but it is not clear how this all works exactly so no use jumping to conclusions until we hear how it works.
This is not true.
Both ‘migrated’ and ‘active’ status of the license keep working, meaning, you can activate / remove on any machine.
The migrated indication just means that that license is al ready used for a discount for subscribing and thus cannot be used to get a discount for an upgrade of a classic (all chances of upgrading to a newer classic version ends 3 nov 2021)
thanks Mike, sounds right to me, that is how I would have thought it should work. I’ll be happy to hear confirmation from Colin as well that the last perpetual version will remain active and transferable even if that same license is used for a discount on subscription.
Wow! Colin you must be an antique like me! I had a group of Freelancers here in Central Florida in the late 70’s I had set up meetings once a month. I invited the NASA graphics cad Engineers, at the time they were designing the Space Shuttle and they brought over their complete set up and showed how they were able to do it in color and rough low resolution graphics 3D. Each color had a number. You had to have a pretty good grasp of geometry as well as engineering. Pretty amazing at the time. After the meeting one airbrush artist remarked “you’ll never be able to do what I can on a Computer.” 
Surprise!
Yea! SketchUp Make is a great software and it’s generous of you to provide it for free.
After a couple years of endlessly frustrating struggle in other 3D tools, and being continually lectured about how I need to become an expert to do anything at all, yada, yada, yada, blah, blah, blah etc… SketchUp Make finally delivered the happy fun enjoyable 3D experience I’ve been looking for. And for free. Thumbs up for that!
As others have voiced, please DO get these answers, and please broadcast them loud and wide … More than a few of us need to know all the details as we are forced to navigate this subscription morass!
Yes Please broadcast the answers load and clear.
Will be interested to hear what you come up with. The Resellers seemed a bit rushed to upgrade everybody and pushed the ‘special offer’ so had to do our own research into what the changeover means.
We decided to with-hold subscribing about 17 licenses because a 2020 license (even obsolete) is more useful to us than no license at all.
As a freeloading newbie nobody who is new to SketchUp, I would be interested to learn what features of SketchUp Pro are so useful to members that they are willing to endure the price, various forms of licensing confusion etc.
This is a question, not a point. Obviously you find such features essential, and obviously I don’t know what those features are.
There are a number of differences I’m aware of without having to look them up, and others I’ve not needed to know about.
The most important is the licence. Pro and on the Web version, Shop, allow commercial use. The Make (latest v2017) and Web Free version are NOT licensed for commercial use - only for hobby and personal, non-commercial use.
Pro has Solid Tools, and a wide range of import/export options which Make and Free do not have, and Shop has only partially.
Sketchup Help shows these differences:
SketchUp Features Free vs. Pro:
Free has only the first two. Pro has all of them. See later for info about Make and Shop.
Build 3D models
Geo-Locate Models
Import CAD files
Export CAD and PDF files
Create multi-page presentation sets
Produce construction drawings
Export animation videos of any size
Present files and full-screen presentations
Add custom attributes and behaviours
Generate lists and reports
Use solid modelling tools
Make hand-drawn rendering styles
Work with simulated film cameras
Email technical support
Licensed for commercial use
Import, Export, and Create IFC Files
Use Terrain and Satellite Imagery with Geo-located Models
This link gives further details.
Commercial use. You can use Pro to make money.
Extensions. The ability to utilize them.
Layout. Access to this software to create professional documentation.
Customization. Being able to set up a workspace, shortcuts, and many many other settings to tailor workflow.
Compatibility. The ability to open and convert to many other document types for use with and from other software packages.
The price is incredibly affordable. At $25 a month, it’s not really a big issue for working professionals.
