Layout not automatically rendering model updates

I have Sketchup pro 2023 and Layout 2023. After I make a change in my model in Sketchup and save it, I then go to Layout click “File” , “Document Set Up”, and then “References”, select anything in red and then click “Update”. Then a yellow triangle with an exclimation mark appears on every page in my layout document and I have to right click in the margin and then click “render”. This has to be done every for every page in the document even though the change was specifice to only one page and its viewport. In Layout 2022 the updates happened automatically and I didnt have to manually “render” each page to update my drawings. What is happening now is a real time suck.

Select a viewport on the page, go to the SketchUp Model panel in the tray and tick the box for Auto Render.

Keep in mind that any scene properties you’ve changed in LayOut (indicated by a dark gray background and Reset button. In the SketchUp Model panel) will not be updated when the viewport is rendered unless you click on the Reset button to remove your overrides.

Dave,

Thanks, that did the trick!

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hi Dave. I encountered this same issue - I selected multiple viewports on a page, clicked Render to update them, then checked the Auto box, thinking that this would ‘reset’ them to auto-render in the future. A small box to the right of the Vector/Raster/Hybrid drop-down opens, showing a green progress animation (for lack of a better term) - then Layout crashes. This has happened multiple times. I’ve been careful about saving my work, so no losses there, but I’m puzzled by the repeated failure. Any suggestions?

I don’t know for sure what would be causing it but it could be that you are overloading the integrated GPU and it doesn’t have enough resources to handle rendering all the viewports.

Turning on Auto render can be done by selecting just one viewport. You don’t need to select a bunch of them. One thing you might try is leaving Auto Render disabled and then render viewports one at a time.

What’s in the SketchUp model? Perhaps there’s some simplification that can be done so that there’s less linework for Vector rendering?

Which version of SketchUp are you using now?

I just tried selecting only one viewport and going to auto - same result. Am using Pro 2022. Rendering viewports one at a time works - but is tedious. This just started happening in the past week after I added a new sheet to my Layout set with a reference to a different SKP file - but I have numerous file references in this set and it has all worked fine up to now. The Layout file is not terribly large - under 6MB - but the SKP model has ballooned to about 60MB.

The number of viewports you select prior to enabling Auto Render is immaterial. Selecting one or all amounts to the same thing as far as the tick box is concerned.

Since this just started happening I guess the place to start digging is with the latest SKP file added. If you want me to take a look at LO file I will. I’m at a FIRST Robotics meeting but when I get home I’ll look. Upload the file to Dropbox and share the link. Send it to me in a private message if you don’t want to make it public.

Thanks for the offer, I’ll send you a link in a private message. My Layout set has 19 sheets; got through them all, re-rendering all viewports, correcting various dimensions and text leaders that got whacked out somehow, went back to the first sheet - and all viewports need to be re-rendered again. Very odd - hope you can shed some light on it.

Same issue here. After updating to the 2024 version everything went downhill. No more automatically rendering in Lay Out after making changes in Sketch Up. If that issue is not fixed ASAP, I will move out to another drawing application. I have been using Sketch Up since it started, but as the old saying says : “If it is working, do not fix it”

This works fine for me in LO2024 as it always has.

Perhaps you have a setting incorrect or you haven’t opened the SketchUp model from LayOut, which has always been a requirement to get viewports to update automatically. Maybe you have viewports locked? Maybe you’ve overridden scene properties for the viewports? Hard to say for sure without seeing your LayOut file.

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As Dave has mentioned, you should either right click on the viewport and “Open with SketchUp” or go to Document Setup → References → Click on skp file → click Edit button to open the SU from LO.

If you’re using the new LO 2024 experimental graphics engine, you might see some occasional update glitches, but you can always toggle that off in LO preferences.

I’m still having the same issues with SketchUp no rendering in LayOut after doing changes. This issue is driving me crazy. I don’t know what else need to be done to solve this. My only option is working in a file until done (not mistakes allowed). I can go back and forward and everything works fine until the files are closed. Never render again when re-open the files to continuing the work.
I really need some help here.

Share the LayOut and SketchUp files so we can see what you’ve got and give you some guidance.

S-2.layout (347.3 KB)
954745334_SketchUp Stream 517_503 1.skp (112.8 KB)
Here is the file I am working on. At Sketchup there are some changes that for some reason do not update at Layout. This happens after closing the files, no more rendering updates are done. Thanks for your time and help in solving this issue.

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In the LayOut file you shared the SketchUp reference is embedded.


If you are editing the original SketchUp file, changes to that file will not be picked up by LayOut because the reference is not linked to that file.

The file path for the reference needs to point to your working SketchUp file. Here I’ve relinked to the file you shared. Note the status shows as Current instead of Embedded.

The fact your SketchUp file is embedded makes me wonder how you added the SketchUp file to the LayOut file. Where are you saving the .skp and .layout files while you’re working on them?

Edit to add:

You really need to set up scenes for the views in your model before going to LayOut. Using the Last saved SketchUp view as you are in this model is a recipe for disaster.
Screenshot - 7_26_2024 , 8_16_13 PM

Here’s the result of updating the reference after doing something in the SketchUp file and orbiting the camera. By not creating a scene to fix the camera location for the viewport, any change to the camera position in the SketchUp file will affect the way the viewport looks in LayOut.

For this model, create a scene with the Camera set to Parallel Projection and the standard Top view. In LayOut set the required scale for it before you add any dimensions or other entities in LayOut.

Here’s the result of setting a scene and then updating the reference and setting a scale in LayOut. Kind of a mess now.

What I do is after finish my drawing work at SketchUp, I just select my drawing them copy and go to my Layout template and paste. I keep working (back & forward) on it without any issues until a close the Layout file, next time when I opened and start doing changes do not update at the Layout file. I always makes changes via File>Document Setup> References. I don’t know how it changes from 'Current" to “Embedded”. How do avoid this to stay “Current”?

Copying and pasting from SketchUp and LayOut is the main cause of your issue and the reason the SketchUp file reference is showing as embedded. Use one of the two correct methods for adding the SketchUp model to your LayOut project. Either use File>Send to LayOut in SketchUp or use File>Insert in LayOut. Only add the SketchUp file to the LayOut project once. After you have the first viewport in LayOut you can copy and paste the viewport to create additional viewports but do not copy and paste from SketchUp.

If you do move to another application I hope you learn how to properly use it…

Good luck!

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But Mike – looks like SketchUp > Layout is the best option out there :joy:

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Dave, I can not thank you enough for your time. Everything is working smooth and easy as ever. Again thanks!

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