Layout file - bug when we refresh the viewports

Hello everyone ,

I have some issues with my layout file , actually i have almost 30 pages of technical plans , when its time to refresh my views , it takes forever to have it done.

I have already purged my document file in layout , and my files had increase from 603 200 ko to 157 234 ko which is very good but it still not faster.

Have you purged the SKP model?
Are you using raster, vector or hybrid rendering?
Can you post the LayOut file?

I have this bug consistently on all hybrid viewports that I refresh in all my files. My workaround is to not use “ render all viewports in document / page” on the right click context menu and, instead, to CTRL+A to select all objects on page and then click “render” in the sketchup model tray. I do this one by one for each page before a layout export. It sucks but it doesn’t take very long to do.

You’ve locked many of the viewports so they won’t refresh until they are unlocked. If you want to protect the viewports from being modified, first make sure the viewports are on their own layer and then lock the layer instead of locking the viewports. Put entities that you draw in LayOut over the viewports on a separate layer above the viewport layer.

You’ve also modified the camera for some viewports like this one.


If the viewport gets reset the viewport will be screwed up.

Best practice is to avoid modifying the Camera properties in LayOut.

BTW, I would suggest removing the LayOut file since it contains client information.

IIRC LayOut re-renders on export, so you don’t have to update each page unless you want to check how it looks.

I think @colin might know for sure.

I think you’re right, and I 99% do it to check out it looks. I’ll test this today though and report back

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I wasn’t sure, so I tested it.

Not only does exporting to PDF render as it exports, it appears to render all of the viewports on each page, even ones not set to render.

One thing that can be slow is the creating of the page thumbnails. Exporting to PDF appears to do that as well.

So, one workflow would be to open a file, export to PDF (coping with how long that takes), then Save. You then would be able to go between pages quicker, and the next export to PDF ought to be quicker.

There is a preferences setting for automatically re-rendering SketchUp models as needed (it’s under General). That would trade off how long it takes to be able to work again after a. viewport change, and how long a PDF export would take. Having that be unchecked would make working on the file be quicker, but PDFs would take longer to export.

I always assumed that, and I’ve been using list for pages as long as I can remember.

First of all, sorry if this is a thread hijack. It’s not clear to me what OP’s bug is and whether mine is the same.

Anyway. I wasn’t able to directly reproduce the exact bug that I’ve experienced in the past. I did get a gif showing the gist of what it is though.

render all pages bug

This beginning of the gif was what happened when I right click menu’d “render all models in document.”

To my surprise, it actually rendered everything correctly this time except for the only 2 raster / x-ray viewports in the model, one of which was the plan view on the right side in the gif (edit: see below). The left 3D view rendered correctly, and then when I “rended objects on page” in that GIF, it fixed the plan view and messed up the 3D view, turning it into x ray and turning off ambient occlusion.

These appear to be purely visual bugs, the export rendered just fine:

test export.pdf (2.8 MB).

It’s a 21mb sketchup model and a 136mb layout file.

Edit: actually looking more closely at the rest of my file, an individual re render of each hybrid viewport made them look a lot better. So there’s some kind of visual bug associated with the “render all objects on page / in document” context menu tool. I never ever have this issue when I render one viewport at a time or even all viewports on the same page providing that I click the "render’ button in “Sketchup Model” pane to do so.

Sadly, on Mac I believe the thumbnails get updated even if you are in list view.

Ha! Well I guess it’s good I upgraded and haven’t noticed.