Layout 2023 is better than 2024, 2025 and 2026!

Hi all!

I am and architect and find that the workspace and usability of Layout 2023 far exceeds that of 2024, 2025 and 2026!

Particularly when snapping to points and the graphics when dragging objects along the ortho planes. The graphics showing the ortho plane in later versions are too bulky and make it hard to see the drawing underneath

This is 2023 graphics when dragging an object along an ortho plane:

The usability of 2024, 2025 + 2026 actually slows down my workflow and is quite frustrating to use.

I also find that the snapping seems to be more sensitive in Layout 2026 and doesn’t give precedent to section cuts as well as in 2023. It is getting stuck on point cloud points, or on objects in the background.

Developers! Please rectify these design flaws and work with users in future releases of Layout and SketchUp!

Thanks, Kalyna.

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The changes to moving objects has been confusing to some. I think it was a change in v.2025 where once you learned it actually was an improvement. That being if you first move the grip centered in the selected object or objects (the little target with a rotate handle)and move it to a logical place like a corner or center of an edge then grabbing the selection almost anywhere moves the grip to the desired location. You need to turn off grid snap and turn on object snap and it works perfect. The visible edges of section cuts arent really edges so any dimensions ect are actually snapping to something behind that edge. I create a stacked layer for dimensioning that has most everything turned off accept the edges like walls visible and I make that layer a vector layer so things snap accurately. Then when turning that layer off an the output layer with textures ect turned on the dimensions are still visible but are actually dimensioning the vector layer. I do agree 2023 is probably the last stable version. Currently Layout 2026 has so many issues for me still I use 2023 because 2024 and 2025 also have issues. I do model in SketchUp 2026.

I’m with you Kalyna.

I find I am making more errors and repeated clicks/commands in 2025-26 compared with ealier versions.

There have been a lot of small changes made to the interfaces that I think were introduced around 2024-2025, along with the new graphics engine. (I cant recall dates since didnt immediately use the new engine). There have also been a number of helpful improvements to the interface - like the Rotate and Move commands having seperate shortcut keys.

To completely communicate the issues you raised might take someone quite a while to go through and accurately identify & document each of the changes and describe the effect of them. But I can raise a few - maybe these sound familiar to you?

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The cursor selection “padding” around each object is obscenely enormous. I have no idea why large objects require esuch huge padding around them. The cursor keeps wanting to do things like rotate a dimension…why?

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Snaps are too aggressive, and the snapping prioritization doesn’t give enough priority to the most important snapping points: active objects and end points.
For functions such as dimensioning it is more important to snap to model end points or edges (ie Closest Edge), rather than paper orientation (red or green axis).
A few functions , such as adding an anchor point to a line, should be much easier - the snaps are non existent for those important functions.

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SelectionTool doesn’t work if there’s something (like a colour overlay) on top of the item. The cursor can’t “see through” things. Since all objects have a large bounding box, this makes selection very difficult. (I already posted about wanting a "pure select’ tool).

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Interface icons and selections are broken or just badly designed.
-Font Color is much more difficult to see if it is selected.

  • Stroke Style: the icons are difficult to read. These are not icons used all the time, every day, so we have to look closely to see them.
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  • Stroke arrowheads: Cant see them!!

  • Fonts: cant type in the name of a font.

  • Font sizes: Cant choose small sizes eg 4pt. We badly need these for “fine print” in titleblocks, and for small annotations.

  • Color selectors: can hardly make out whether something is selected or not:

  • Style tool uses the same Eyedropper icon for both Style picker, and for Color picker… Change the icon to avoid confusion!

  • Font list - not sure why so many individual typefaces listed instead of Families (Arial Bold, Arial Narrow, Arial Regular… most software just has “Arial” as a family and then a drop down to select the typeface). With every single installed typeface selected, this makes scrolling annoying. (There’s no “recent fonts” or “template fonts” as an easy subset, we have to scroll 100s!)

Example: Bahnschrift Light Condensed then has a Type Face called Light Condensed.
For this random example (a windows system font), look at the myriad options!
…And we cant even read the typeface names without expanding the Menu tray to make it very very wide.

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Splitting and joining lines - this tool has recently added functionality recent releases, but its now obvious that we are lacking a “join” even if the two paths arent connected. Why can’t we join 2 paths together by adding an segment? or shifting a segment if its really close together. Some of the snapping of each line as we draw it gets a bit overwhelming. I would love to turn snaps off for a bit!

Draft mode. I can never seem to get this to work…I’ve managed it once or twice but maybe without the new graphics engine being enabled?

What this all points to is a need for more user control over snapping behavior - padding, prioritization and so forth. We don’t all have the same style of documentation, or the same monitor/graphic setups.

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Wow Sam,

You have nailed the new versions of SketchUp to the wall!

I seriously agree on all points! My models now look very jagged with the updated graphics engine, editing lineweights/fills etc take longer because as you say, the whole tool panels have changed in their graphics- making it harder to read.

I am also having troublesplitting lines, adding snap points to lines within layout etc as you remark on.

To the SketchUp Developers- please consider this very imporant feedback as we sit infront of this program 8 hours a day, 5 days a week!

Thanks for your fantastic feedback Ivan and Sam- super helpful, and great to know I am not the only one infuriated with the new versions. Back to the 2023 version for me- as it is still the best version!

Can I add one more thing- deleting access to a free desktop version of SketchUp Viewer also SUCKS! As my clients can no longer independantly access the models I share with them, without having to set up their own Trimble online account, or having to open the model online via the online SketchUp viewer. Some of my models are very big, so having to open models in an internet browser can be laggy and not user friendly at all. I truly believe this is going to effect my accessibility as an architect, and the accessibility of SketchUp on the whole. Further is Trimble training language models with my designs once they are uploaded to their cloud accounts??!! Just saying….

Kalyna