Layout 2020


I love using sketchup and layout but layout has been freezing and giving me the circle of death when i try to go from rastar to hybrid. It just freezes and I have to close the program. I bought a new laptop about a year ago as i do lots of renderings and drawings for residential and commercial projects. This is frustrating as I cant get the model to have cleaner lines.

Heres my laptop particulars: 9th Gen Intel® Core™ i7-9750H (2.60GHz, up to 4.50GHz with Turbo Boost, 6 Cores, 12MB Cache)
Windows 10 Home 64
16GB 2666MHz DDR4 (2 x 8GB)
1TB HDD 7200 RPM
15.6" FHD (1920 x 1080) IPS, anti-glare, NVIDIA® G-SYNC, Dolby® Vision HDR™ 400, 144 Hz, 500 nits
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX™ 2070 with Max-Q 8GB

I’m not techie enough to answer this properly so best wait for someone who is. However, at first sight, you seem to have hardware well powerful enough. What size of drawing in terms of polygon count are you handling?

I’m interested because I sometimes have trouble switching from raster to hybrid. In my case, it usually just crashes Layout. Sometimes it crashes the whole computer. I have reached the point where I try to remember to save the file before I invoke hybrid as I can’t be sure I won’t lose work if I don’t.

I thought it might be a Mac problem because so few Windows based people seemed to be reporting it. But my iMac is also quite old and a bit underpowered so I have been kind of hoping that if I upgrade, the problem will disappear.

Can you share the Layout file?

I have tried to upload it and that doesn’t seem to work

Most likely your file is too large to upload directly. Upload it to Drop Box or Google Drive and share the link.

This should work

So the first viewport I looked at shows the Floor Plan scene. Just looking at that scene I can see there is a whole lot of geometry to render when you change to Vector or Hybrid.

I did a little cleanup in the SketchUp model file. First I corrected incorrect tag/layer usage.
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And then ran CleanUp3. In fact it is still running. After 2 minutes it is 0.8% finished removing duplicate faces. It says there’s over 5 hours remaining in cleaning it up. It might not actually take that long but we’ll see.

It looks like your Sketchup file has gotten out of control. I imagine it’s due to components you’ve added from the 3D Warehouse.

I’ll come back to check on it in a little bit.

Ahh ok. That would make sense than. Is there something I can use to reduce the number of faces from models that I use?

It is always recommended that you bring components from outside sources into a separate model file to inspect them. Often you can remove a lot of unneeded detail. For example, kitchen appliance components often have details that will never show in your models. Last week I took a gas range component from the 3D Warehouse to clean it up. As it came in, it had the racks, inside along with the supports for the racks, the burner assembly in the oven, even some of the gas piping. All details you wouldn’t care about unless you were reverse engineering the thing to build your own from scratch. When I got finished removing the unneeded geometry the component was under 1 Mb so I reduced the file size by more than 90% and for use in a kitchen, you couldn’t tell the difference.

FWIW CleanUp is currently at 1.0% in removing duplicate faces. Now it says there’s nearly 40 hours remaining. Again, it might not actually take that long. I killed it and I’ll try a different approach.

Another thing to keep in mind is that components, materials and styles that you try out but don’t use get left in the file so they add file size without benefit. You have 25 styles in your model file. Some of those aren’t being used. It would be a good idea to remove them.

I used a different tool to clean up some of the stuff and now I’m letting CleanUp3 do its thing. Hopefully it’ll be faster this time.

Purgeing got rid of a lot of unused stuff in the model.
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