Importing IFC in SU2023

yeah, it remained stuck for about 1h30, then I stopped it.
I’ve not imported a lot of IFC files, but this one seems heavy

Looking at the files Rtches exported, I think the furnitures represent a lot of geometry. here is what CG reports tells us :

there are 13 elements that, with their multiple copies, have more geometry than the actual first and second floor model.


Now I’ve never used Revit, but I’ve used and imported lots of files from lots of softwares.
If you have a hand on the revit file, and you need to export / import things quickly (quicker), you could export your revit file in several ifc (if revit allows it)

Say, you export one ifc with the building itself, one with the furnitures and lights of the ground floor, another with the first floor. By making smaller more manageable ifc files it could mean a faster non crashy import in sketchup, and all you would have to do is just stack them.

  • 2’ (minutes) to import 380 MB IFC file
  • 1’ (minute) to export to SKP 2017 file (420 MB)
  • 1’ (minute) to open the SKP file and save as 159 MB SU2022 file

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11 millions edges

with pCon.planner (win).

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Does the new SketchUp file preserve the IFC information?

Imported IFC via pCon

I’m referring to this…

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Just a simple skp component

To test and see if the complete information is kept via Blender.
https://blenderbim.org/

You can test with Trimble Connect too. If you export to trimbim you obtain a similar model than yours with pCon. That was the reason why I asked about information…

Thanks for the tip about pCon!

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Something seems wrong with SU2023 as it is less efficient on space.

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Upgrading from 2017 to 2024 in Revit:

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12 minutes

Upload as Trimbim from within Revit with Trimble Connect File Uploader:

14 minutes

Started importing the Revit file in SketchUp, took about 3 minutes and resulted in a 30MB file, no information.

Download as trimbim:

Imported in 6 minutes or so,

A different Tagstructure but with dynamic_attributes

wrongly mapped to DC though, only available with an attribute inspector

Import in SketchUp is the winner (filesize):

Link to the winner:

I’m afraid that an Ifc file without information is like an empty bottle… The purpose of an Ifc file is preserve information.

Empty bottles can be filled :wink:

I haven’t checked the ifc file, but in the rurals of the ever evolving methods and ways of exporting ifc (eg. the export settings in the software) an older exported file is different than an export from a neeer version.
It is all about mapping psets or software properties to ifc parameters.

Those can be investigated with an add on like arilius Attribute inspector for those who are interested, but generally, the SketchUp model would be used as a start for creating nice renderings.

If it would be used to collaborate, a strict method or IDS (information description standard) must be used upfront the export and later on import.

Designers and architects have less interest in that than engineers IMO and experience.

Nevertheless I would like to have a native way to see those properties, though.

The real focus of BIM I think is the description of what is (going to be) build, or Object. How that is represented through the different kind of software is of less importance.

Since SketchUp is just plain edges and faces, we need a solid way to describe and add properties to the objects.

Quadri (Trimble civil software) does just that, it converts any input (Tekla, Revit, SketchUp, GIS, dwg) into ‘features’ that can be mapped (automatically) to the right ‘category ‘ resulting in a very constant IFC output.

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That’s the problem. A SketchUp model is not only for Rendering. I usually receive Ifc from Engineers full of important data.

Me too

is “i” information

I disagree, Groups and Components have definition and you can attach to them lots of information.

I still trust in a better SketchUp being capable of importing and exporting ifc without loss of information

I have the exakt same problem. It worked fine in previous version and now my workflow is messed up. Cant do the things i Used to. VERY frustrating.

Have you found a fix for this?

The IFC support in SketchUp 2024 is much better.
If possible, it would be best to upgrade SketchUp.

Yes, my recomendation is to install SU2024 as it handles IFC better.

The better option for importing ifc´s is still to not import ifc´s, but put the file in the cloud in Trimble Connect, convert it to .trb, download it, and import that download.

You then get tags intact, and a much smaller file. Components/instances are still broken, so SU is still taking some Information out of the Building Information Modelling (BIM) files :slight_smile:

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You lost your data with that method