Can't find model/components etc- view/zoom incorrect?

Hi,

I’ve unfortunately lost the view of my model, components, etc. I’ve tried all the tricks on the forum, inc:

  • Zoom Extent (it does nothing)
  • Outliner, Select All etc- the model doesn’t appear anywhere on the screen
  • Zooming in and out
  • Changing the “Display” settings inc hidden geometry, objects, guides
  • Changing the camera view/perspective
  • Closing and reopening it, exporting and opening file

Unfortunately I never saved any Scenes so cant use that to get me back. Its 6.5mb. At this stage though I don’t know if Ive made a mess of it.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I can share the SKP file. Ive been using the free web version but also have access to the Schools web version.

Bug thanks in advance!
:smiley:

Download the model to your computer and attach it to a reply here.

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Bench, Lounge.skp (6.2 MB)

Thanks a lot Box!
:smiley: Andy

Is this what you are looking for.

Yes!!! Howd you do that?
:smiley:

You can fix it yourself rather than me give it to you.
Open your model, hit ctrl+a, or whatever is the correct mac key for Select all, then ctrl+c, again the correct mac version for Copy, then open a new model from the top left Icon, it will want you to close the current model, do so and don’t bother saving as nothing has changed, Once the new one is open Right click anywhere on the screen and choose Paste in place. The fourth icon on top of the context menu. You should have your model back.

Thanks heaps Box. I’ve been trying that but unfortunately without any luck, when I “Paste in place”, or paste normally, it does so but I again get the grey screen of nothingness.

I tried making a ‘Scene’ with ‘Ty’ and pasting it on the axis point so that I could come back to that view but that didn’t work either. Its definitely pasting in to the new model, the entities are all there when I Select All after the Paste.

Is there anything Im missing? Are there any objects or guides that are massive or something?

Thanks again :slight_smile:

Might be a Mac thing.
Try this
Bench Box.skp (6.3 MB)

I did try those steps on Mac and Windows (and included the step of turning on the hidden tags), and in both cases the scene becomes gray. Not sure why it worked for you.

Haven’t yet figured out what it is in the model that is the problem, I’m trying other ideas…

There is an instance of the pillow component and an edge that have somehow come to be a vast distance from the model origin. They had to be deleted before copying to a new file worked for me. My usual Ruby snippet to fix the camera didn’t work for some reason.

I don’t know what the purpose of the group on the scale tag is, but it is immense (about 180m x 301m) and textured with a material that looks a bit sand or rocks.

As Steve and/or Box said there is a component out in space
x = 9358506402766106497375382959508773032351492064097602849617215488mm
y = 6979547237568500643071561545301845997289951868553822705058578432mm

@colin This old piece of code seems to recover the file properly.

RescueMyModel v18.rb (6.4 KB)

That is multiple times larger than the universe, about 9.36 × 10^29 meters. The diameter of the universe is about 8.8×10^26 meters.

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:thinking: Did you mean galaxy ?

Thanks, the version I had doesn’t even appear in the Extensions menu. Then again, nor does this one.

Curiously, just installing your extension was enough to fix the model, even if I couldn’t choose it from a menu. It also seems to ‘fix’ the Simply template I’m using. If after opening a Simple template document the camera is showing from underground, does that mean your extension did something unnecessary, or did it find something to fix?

Btw, any thoughts on why Box doing a select all, copy, new, paste, didn’t show the problem?

No. The observable universe. The diameter of our galaxy, the Milky Way is only about 1×10^21 m wide (100 000 light years) The model is about 10 billion times larger.

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I see ! It’s a useful precision !
Perhaps Andy’s model simply haven’t had time to get to us - yet :upside_down_face:

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It isn’t an extension, it’s a script meant to be cut and pasted into the Ruby Console or loaded via a Ruby command. It doesn’t create an extension, add any menu items or toolbars. It does its work immediately on load, acting on the active model. So, even putting it into the Plugins folder isn’t appropriate unless that’s the only way you can remember where to find it :wink:

Yeah, Sorry Colin, this is just a script. I do remember many years ago making a version for you that was a complete extension.

Back to the topic at a hand, do your think the error seen above is the result of a regression or is a completely new problem (transgression?).

G’day everyone, thanks so much again Box and community- Im back on track.

I deleted the pillows, big square of ‘pebbles’ and other background elements. Strangely though it then didn’t let me save it. So I downloaded the SKP and reopened it.

I then did Boxs copy and paste trick of just the key stuff I needed.

It still seemed to get stuck in infinity if I accidentally zoomed in too much. So in the App Settings - Navigation - Device Settings I made the Zoom as insensitive as possible. This has helped me not get stuck as often (I may have an overzealous mouse wheel).

Im going to keep creating scenes as a kind of save point that I can quickly come back to when it goes wrong.