Can I use SketchUp 2026 with LayOut 2024?

Hi everyone,

Does anyone know if it’s possible to use SketchUp 2026 together with LayOut 2024?

We are finding that LayOut 2026 is far too slow and frustrating to work with. For us, it simply takes too much extra time and crashes too frequently.

Does anyone know what happens if you uninstall the newer LayOut (2026) and then use the “Send to LayOut” command in SketchUp? Will it still try to locate the 2026 version, or will it automatically find the latest version currently installed on the computers?

We skipped SketchUp 2025 and waited for the 2026 release, but after only 1,5 months of use, we’ve realized it’s just not working for our workflow. It would be a pity to also go back to SketchUp 2024 when we like the new features in SketchUp 2026.

Thanks in advance!

Edit: I know it’s possible to import into LayOut 2024. I’m wondering if “Send to LayOut” works.

I don’t really use Layout, but it’s certain that Layout cannot be installed or uninstalled separately. The installer doesn’t allow you to not install Layout or uninstall Layout only.
However, any major version of Sketchup can be installed. So if you can import the SU 2026 file into Layout 2024, that might be a workoround.
I think “Send to LayOut” is a version-hardwired thing.

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Hm that’s what I was afraid of.. :slight_smile: I’d hope you could remove LO 2026 and that it would only be some kind of error if you pressed" “send to layout” - or even better, send to the only one left :slight_smile:

Thanks!

As I said, theoretically all major versions can be installed. I currently have 6 or 7 major versions up, and they work well and independently(!) of each other.
So, it makes sense that the SU major version sends the stuff to the corresponding Layout version, otherwise it would be a mess.

Again, I don’t really use Layout, so I wouldn’t mind if I didn’t have to install it, but right now, they’re “integrated.” That’s it, we need to “like” that! :grin:

By the way, your forum profile doesn’t indicate (please update it !) which platform you’re on (Win vs Mac) and what versions you are using. I’m talking about Windows in general.

on a mac you can remove layout, sketchup will still run.
but I don’t really see the point…

Yes, I also have multiple versions of SketchUp installed. I was hoping you could manually set the default version so that “Send to LayOut” triggers LayOut 2024 instead of 2026..

Sorry about that, I forgot to add the platform to my profile. I’ll fix that right away.
We are using Windows :slight_smile:

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Since LayOut 2026 is slow, crashes and are too unstable for us compared to 2024, I’d rather just remove it.
That way my colleagues won’t have to worry about which version they’re using. They can just stick to what’s installed :slight_smile:

Have you sent in the BugSplat reports of your crashes? Looking at them, @colin could have a clue about the reason for the instability. Are the drivers for your unknown graphics card up to date? You should go to the website of the unknown company to check, Windows cannot be trusted to keep things current.

I send most of my bugsplat. I’ve asked my colleagues to do the same, though I can’t be 100% sure everyone do it every time. We have a team with about 80 daily users and slightly over 140 licenses in total.
Of course, not all 140 people are experiencing these issues, but enough of us are for it to show a pattern that needs a solution. Since we use various computer models with different graphics cards, we haven’t been able to find a common thread on the hardware side yet. Our systems are managed by our IT department, so I have to trust that they keep everything up to date​:sweat_smile:

One example that’s very frustrating issue is the Scrapbook tray. It can take up to 11 seconds just to open or switch trays, and that has forced us to find workarounds instead of just.. “working” :slight_smile:
Even if it seems like a smaller problem on its own, it’s causing a lot of frustration when it’s combined with other bigger problems (ex. crashes).

It’s also worth mentioning that these issues occur regardless of whether we use folders connected to OneDrive or using local folders.

When I search around the forum, it seems that we (unfortunaly) aren’t the only ones having problems with LO26.

Another thing that’s maybe worth mentioning is that we’ve noticed that the exact same files, on the same computers and the same folders connected, work a lot faster and are much more stable when opened in LayOut 2024 instead of LayOut 2026. Even if they were originally created in LayOut 2026.

I don’t want to sound negative about the newer versions and upgrades, we are really happy with SketchUp 2026!
Right now I’m just looking around for a simple solution with LayOut that’ll make my colleagues happy (or at least a bit less frustrated) :slight_smile:

Yes – I have reported this to the team.

I have three monitors and keep my Scrapbook tray permanently open on one monitor.

Is everything installed locally? If the scrapbooks or other resources somehow are installed on a network drive I could see all sorts of delays, etc.

I believe this is probably a QT bug Mike – my scrapbooks are all local and it takes about 4 second to open scrapbook tray if it is not open.

Another thing about the current release is that (for me) it’s taking about 5 seconds to enter edit mode for a text box.

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That’s one of the “workarounds” we have. It works relativly well, mainly when people work from home and only have one screen that’s they find it annoying. But that’s not a huge issue alone at least :slight_smile:

Yes, it’s regarless of we connect our folders to OneDrive or have it connected locally. It’s the same timeframe.

LayOut 2024 takes 1-2 seconds to open the exact same scrapbook, even if it’s connected to OneDrive

Layout 2026 still has a save as option that allows to save as an older version the newest is 2022. That should go away The last save as in SketchUp to older versions was 2024 in think. The newer versions of Sketchup / Layout are adopting a bidirectional compatibility (so they say) so the save as went away to specific older versions. They had to draw a line as to support for older versions. I think if Layout 2024 is open and you do a send to Layout from SU 2026 it will send it to the open version of Layout.

However you can open a Layout 2026 file in 2024 (or older) then save it and that will be a 2024 file. The early versions of 2026 were buggy for me and a few features needed fixing so I went back to Layout 2023, 2024 was problematic for me. Ive found 2023 the last most stable version of both SketchUp and Layout. I am now back to 2026 for both. I was modeling in 2026 and using Layout 2023 with no problems. The speed issues I notice some difference in the older versions (pre new graphics engine) but I think a hardware upgrade for me will make a difference. I have a pretty good nvidia graphics card only 16gb of ram I think 32gb would make a difference and current processors are double the speed of what I have.

Accessing Scrapbooks has always been slow.

Thank you for the 18 bugsplats you sent in.

I noticed that you are still using an earlier version of LayOut. There was an update a few weeks ago, that had several LayOut crashing issues fixed in it. It may be worth trying the newer version.

custom_send_to_layout.rbz (19.8 KB)

I quickly create a custom extension which will do exactly what you are looking for with a one click button exactly like the native one.

Take a look at the video to see how to configure and use it.

Its been my experience that if using lats say SketchUp 2026 and doing a send to Layout with no open session of Layout A 2026 Layout session will open. If an older version of Layout is open and you send to Layout from 2026 or what ever is open it will send to the open session of Layout.

It would be simple enough to try a quick test.