BugSplat en boucle depuis installation sur MacStudio

Bonjour,

Je me permets de créer un topic parce que je n’arrive pas à avoir de retour de la part du support.

J’ai récemment installer SketchupPro 2022 avec une licence pro sur un MacStudio Nom du modèle : Mac Studio :

Identifiant du modèle : Mac13,1
Puce : Apple M1 Max
Nombre total de cœurs : 10 (8 performance et 2 efficacité)
Mémoire : 32 Go

Le problème c’est que j’ai des bugsplat(s) en boucle et particulièrement aujourd’hui; ce doit être la dixième ou quinzième fois.

Le rapport d’erreur est trop long pour être ajouté à mon message mais si certains peuvent m’indiquer les lignes “importantes”, je pourrais les copier/coller.

Je ne suis pas habitué à ces rapports d’erreurs et n’en comprend donc pas la cause. J’ai désinstallé Sketchup, je l’ai réinstallé mais rien n’y fait.

Quelqu’un saurait-il m’aider s’il vous plait ?

Merci d’avance.

Il semblerait que les lignes indiquant quelle est la source du problème sont les suivantes :slight_smile:

Crashed Thread: 20 Dispatch queue: com.apple.root.default-qos

Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000000000000
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000001, 0x0000000000000000
Exception Note: EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY

VM Region Info: 0 is not in any region. Bytes before following region: 4336205824
REGION TYPE START - END [ VSIZE] PRT/MAX SHRMOD REGION DETAIL
UNUSED SPACE AT START
—>
__TEXT 102754000-10306c000 [ 9312K] r-x/r-x SM=COW …acOS/SketchUp

Si jamais cela peut aider une âme charitable à venir à mon secours…

I can’t answer the question, but with Google translated to English so more people will understand it.

Hello,

I allow myself to create a topic because I can’t get any feedback from the support.

I recently installed SketchupPro 2022 with a pro license on a MacStudio Model name: Mac Studio:

Model ID: Mac13.1
Chip: Apple M1 Max
Total number of cores: 10 (8 performance and 2 efficiency)
Memory: 32 GB

.The error report is too long to add to my post but if some can point me to the “important” lines, I could copy/paste them.

I am not used to these error reports and therefore do not understand the cause. I uninstalled Sketchup, reinstalled it but nothing happened.

Could someone help me please?

Thanks in advance

2nd post

It would seem that the lines indicating what is the source of the problem are as follows:slight_smile:

Crashed Thread: 20 Dispatch queue: com.apple.root.default-qos

Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000000000000
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000001, 0x0000000000000000
Exception Note: EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY

VM Region Info: 0 is not in any region. Bytes before following region: 4336205824
REGION TYPE START - END [ VSIZE] PRT/MAX SHRMOD REGION DETAIL
UNUSED SPACE AT START
—>
__TEXT 102754000-10306c000 [ 9312K] r-x/r-x SM=COW …acOS/SketchUp

If it ever helps a charitable soul to come to my rescue…

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(again, the translation is good. my 2 cents, basically asking for more info, Dave will make more sense of the crash reports) :

  • when does it crash ?
  • when did it start ? any updates ?
  • any extension installed ? if so, have they tried running SU without them ?
  • finally, did they try a clean install or not yet
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Bonjour

2-3 questions :

  • es-ce que ça arrive à un moment précis ? au démarrage, ou à l’ouverture d’un certain fichier ? à un timing précis (5 min après l’ouverture du fichier par exemple) ?

  • Es-ce que ça marchait bien avant aujourd’hui, si oui, es-ce qu’il y a eu une mise a jour de macOS

  • es-ce que tu as des extensions installées, si oui, lesquelles ? si oui, as-tu tenté de temporairement déplacer/vider le dossier des extensions ?

  • Et enfin… tu as tenté une réinstallation au propre ou pas encore ?

Thank you john_mcclenahan for the translation and the time you spent on my topic.

Ateliernab, thank you for your help :

*** when does it crash ?**

  • for two days, it crashes every 15 minutes or 20 minutes while I’m working on a project without any particular action.

*** when did it start ? any updates ?**

  • it crashes a bit on my old iMac but it started at the moment I’ve installed SU Pro on the new MacStudio

*** any extension installed ? if so, have they tried running SU without them ?**

  • no extension installed; the only modification I did was to change the repertory for “Materials” in “Preferences” because I have my own materials in *.skm : maybe I should try to reinstall without changing it and see if it works

*** finally, did they try a clean install or not yet ?**

  • probably not because I don’t know how to do it, I just go to my Application folder and then I deleted the whole set of files

EDIT : I have just searched on the internet and I delete the whole set of files in Application folder then I delete the following files :

  • ~/Library/Application Support/SketchUp
  • ~/Library/Application Support/Trimble Connect for SketchUp/Logs
    ~/Library/Preferences/com.sketchup.LayOut.plist
  • ~/Library/Preferences/com.sketchup.SketchUp.plist
  • ~/Library/Preferences/com.sketchup.StyleBuilder.plist
  • ~/Library/Caches/com.sketchup.LayOut
  • ~/Library/Caches/com.sketchup.SketchUp

I’ll re-install SketchUp without importing my *.skm folder and then see if it works.

By any chance, did you set the autosave to 15 or 20 minutes ?
(es-ce que tu as mis la sauvegarde auto à 15-20 minutes, dans les préférences?)

Might be it if it keeps happening like clockwork.

No, I did not change it, autosave is every 5 minutes and it works. Because after crashes, I can relaunch and the autosave keep saving my work.

I try a clean install, I run SU without changing anything and I have the same issue.

Time Awake Since Boot: 4300 seconds

System Integrity Protection: enabled

Crashed Thread:        23  Dispatch queue: com.apple.root.default-qos

Exception Type:        EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes:       KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000000000000
Exception Codes:       0x0000000000000001, 0x0000000000000000
Exception Note:        EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY

VM Region Info: 0 is not in any region.  Bytes before following region: 4302880768
      REGION TYPE                    START - END         [ VSIZE] PRT/MAX SHRMOD  REGION DETAIL
      UNUSED SPACE AT START
Incident Identifier: 9438FA8C-26C0-40DF-B256-90F6D9496C09
CrashReporter Key:   4C2278F1-1CF0-51E4-BBA8-C3CB966EB0F0
Hardware Model:      Mac13,1
Process:         SketchUp [1239]
Path:            
Identifier:      com.sketchup.SketchUp.2022
Version:         22.0 (22.0.353)
Code Type:       ARM-64
Parent Process:  launchd [1]

Date/Time:       2022-11-22T09:46:10Z
Launch Time:     2022-11-22T09:28:47Z
OS Version:      Mac OS X 12.6 (21G115)
Report Version:  104

Exception Type:  SIGABRT
Exception Codes: #0 at 0x184cc2d98
Crashed Thread:  23

Well it might be time to attract @colin 's attention here , the Bugsplat Whisperer. He might have a better idea.

I have asked a develop to take a look.

One thing that I’m wondering about, are you using VPN, or any other security software that might make it hard for the system to tell where in the world you are located?

Hi, thanks for interesting to ma problem.

Absolutely not, we don’t have a VPN and no security software who modify our localisation. The only thing is that our sketchup files are on a server and not directly on the MacStudio… is it possible that’s a problem for SketchUp to find them ?

We have always work like this and we had no problem with older versions of SketchUp on iMac.

I just receive a message from support :slight_smile:

"Thanks for reaching out to SketchUp Support!
After taking a look at your BugSplat it looks like SketchUp is trying to load some of your SketchUp files off an external hard drive. The file path is specifically: Partage/Dossier Client/Bertin/SCI Tu Kae/3D/3D Montée/

If you can try moving all the SketchUp files in this folder to a different location that is on your local hard drive I believe this will resolve the issue."

It might help someone else. For me, it’s a really big problem because like I just explain to support team, we are an agency and our sketchup files have to be on a server to be accessed from differents users…

So I’m still looking if there is any possibility to make it work without moving like hundred and hundred clients folder to one computer.

I try to move one file to test working directly from my hard drive… it doesn’t work. SU still crashed less than 20 minutes after I opened it.

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Translated Report (Full Report Below)
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Process:               SketchUp [1076]
Path:                  /Applications/SketchUp 2022/SketchUp.app/Contents/MacOS/SketchUp
Identifier:            com.sketchup.SketchUp.2022
Version:               22.0 (22.0.353)
Code Type:             ARM-64 (Native)
Parent Process:        launchd [1]
User ID:               501

Date/Time:             2022-11-23 10:37:31.7465 +0100
OS Version:            macOS 13.0.1 (22A400)
Report Version:        12
Anonymous UUID:        ED22923B-F317-1D9D-1F7F-77989ED02A26


Time Awake Since Boot: 2900 seconds

System Integrity Protection: enabled

Crashed Thread:        18  Dispatch queue: com.apple.root.default-qos

Exception Type:        EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes:       KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000000000000
Exception Codes:       0x0000000000000001, 0x0000000000000000

VM Region Info: 0 is not in any region.  Bytes before following region: 4333879296
      REGION TYPE                    START - END         [ VSIZE] PRT/MAX SHRMOD  REGION DETAIL
      UNUSED SPACE AT START
--->  
      __TEXT                      10251c000-102e34000    [ 9312K] r-x/r-x SM=COW  ...acOS/SketchUp

Application Specific Information:
abort() called

I don’t understand what’s going on and it’s kind of very complicated because I didn’t work on my projects since Monday.

So… if someone has any other idea, I’ll try. Thanks.

Did you by any chance move it to a folder or drive on your computer that is backed up automatically?
That could have the same effect as working on a file on a remote drive…

What do you mean ?
The entire mac is save by TimeMachine on a server so it could be a folder backed up, yes. But not specifically, I worked from “Documents” for the test.

When Ventura is installed it turns on icloud backup for Desktop and Documents folders…

I found someone had the same kind of crash with SketchUp 2016, in an older Mac OS version, so I don’t think that the issue is to do with Mac Studio or SketchUp 2022 as such. It was @TDahl having the problem, over three years ago. Maybe he will remember what the outcome was.

I have my work Mac set up to allow Documents and Desktop to be on iCloud, so I can check these kinds of issues. If you want to try the local file test again, the Downloads folder might be a better place to put the file for now.

I mean that a lot of people come to this forum with unreadable and most of the time irreparable files. Most of the time these people work on files that are in the cloud or on a remote drive.
Best practice is to download the file to your local hard drive, open from there, save local and after that upload to the cloud or remote drive.
Lots of people here comment that this is bulls@#&t and have never experienced problems but they are the lucky few, until their luck runs out guess…

A quick unscientific statistic analysis: Of all the people using SketchUp, an infinitesimal portion visit this forum. Most forum members come here first because of a problem, so inevitably a larger portion of forum members have problems compared to those who don’t come here. So the people with crashing files are the unlucky few. The reason might quite plausibly be network problems. But the number of networks without problems must exceed those that don’t work. In a company environment people are usually forbidden to save anything on their workstations and everything must be saved on servers. I have been doing that for 30 years. Server crashed once some 27 years ago with some data loss.

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Thanks to @colin for finding my old topic on my experience with spontaneous SketchUp crashes (link to that old topic below) with SketchUp Pro 2016 and 2017. Unfortunately the crashes I experienced were never understood or worked-around, so I had to stop using 2016 and 2017. As noted in my old topic, SketchUp would crash in my environment if I simply launched it with the default nearly-empty model, let go of the keyboard and mouse, and just waited. This was with an older macOS on an Intel iMac.