Black lines no shading?

I’m trying to print black lines with no shading and a white background (like the patent office likes). Most online advice does not apply to sketchup web. Tried exporting into edrawings, printing to pdf, wireframes, and many other things. Photo modeling looks good except all the lines are colored – printing in pdf makes the lines very light grey.
Sketchup Web, paying.

Has anyone figured this out? Thanks for any help.

I use SU Pro, but giving SU Web a try I was able to come up with this.

Select the Hidden Line style from the Default style collection or edit the existing style to select the Hidden Line face style and make the background white with no sky. If you edit the style remember to update it with the changes.

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I cannot thank you enough. I tried the hidden line choice in the styles, but not all the lines appeared. But the missing element was turning on profiles. I cannot tell you how much this helped. I’ve spent hours almost finding the answer. Saved it as patents as you showed.

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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Done.

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Follow up question. Hidden files and settings are set as in the above video, which makes most of the model as I want it. (black lines on white with no shading). But there are two items that have lots of lines that I can’t figure out how to get rid of. (See the attachment) If I remember it right, I made one item by downloading pipe from the warehouse, either by downloading elbows to connect the pipes or by using follow me. The other is a simple short tube that I made (probably) by push pull.

Does anyone have any insight into how to get rid of all the extra lines?

shetchup question.pdf (136.1 KB)

Select the geometry, right click on it and choose Soften/Smooth Edges.
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Thanks very much. This worked for one set of problems. For the more complex pipe structure, when am able to highlight and soften/smooth, some of the lines do not connect. I’m adjusting my hidden line settings and will see if it works.

What do you neam by that?

Share the .skp file so we can take a look at it.

Here is a pdf of the portion that is causing the trouble. All or a portion of the lines disappear, depending on the orientation of the model.

This is part of a not-yet-filed patent application so I can send the .skp file to individuals but can’t yet post it.
Doc9.pdf (23.4 KB)

That doesn’t really give enough information. Maybe you have separate groups? In any case you would need to select that geometry and use the Soften/Smooth Edges feature again. Don’t overdo the softening angle.

The pipe structure has four or five groups (I think I’m using that term-of-art correctly). I turned on soften/smooth on each one and have similar line weirdness. Changing the angle does not have any effect. Same with changing profile parameters, or adjusting or turning on/off other features of the hiddenlines style. Would it be possible for me to send you a link to the .skp file for troubleshooting?

You’ve already helped me very much, and I’m right near the finish line. I would hope to someday return the favor or make us square.

I’m using SK web. Is there a way for you to access my file?

There must be edges you haven’t gotten or you’ve got some individual faces.

Download the file to your computer and then send it to me in a DM by clicking on my name and then “Message”

Done. Should be in your inbox.

I guess those lines “disapear” because you have smoothed or hidden those lines and disabled the display of profiles?

If you want to show the outlines of the pipe, turn on your profile lines and make them thicker/thinner as desired.

This should show the outlines of the pipes again?

Got the file and had a brief look.

You do have Profiles enabled in the style so what @AnnoNiem is referring to isn’t the issue. And although there are a few hidden edges, they aren’t it, either.

So on the elbows, the angles between faces are such that the softening angle needs to be increased to around 40°.

Before:


After:

Note that there are a number of places between the straight sections and the elbow where softening won’t help because the faces aren’t aligned correctly and there are gaps.

How did you model these components to wind up with that misalignment? I’m also wondering about how you plan to build this framework. There’s a great deal of inconsistency in your model. Are the elbows separate from the straight tubes or are the tubes going to be bent? Are the wyes going to be welded or is there a separate wye coupler? Here I’ve colored the different components in the framework. Each component has a different color.

I think before you worry about softening the edges in the elbows, you should correct the general structure and make the framework consistent.

Do you want something more like this?

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Yes! Exactly that except for the shading. I don’t recall how I got to here. A lot of hacking around.

In the (real-world) prototype, the structure is pvc pipe with couplings for elbows and Ys. It’s a patent drawing so I can show it one way and then expand the scope with words.

How would you recommend I fix this – maybe delete the existing pipes and try to redraw from scratch?