2020 - limit on 3d warehouse downloads

[ateliernab]

@jlo1

This is kind of like amazon and netflix now inserting ads into the movies you watch. It’s sucks. It’s a bad experience that leaves a bad taste in ones mouth.

no. not at all.

if sketchup made subscribers watch ads then yes.
but free users are not subscribers.

netflix and amazon don’t allow free users to watch anything. jeez.

@jlo1

Did google ever monetize the warehouse? Did it create a shared community of users all creating objects for the benefit of SKP and it’s users?

the only reason behind the free version and the warehouse is free workforce.
“please model your cities for free while we wait for technology to allow us to just use scans”

[jlo1]

pedantic.

[bmike]

@jlo1

Did google ever monetize the warehouse?

Everything Google did was about monetization. How did they become a gajillion dollar company? Just because you didn’t see it doesn’t me it wasn’t happening. If Trimble didn’t buy SKP I doubt we’d be here having these discussions… SketchUp would have been taken out back and sent to the Google graveyard…

[bmike]

@jlo1

This is kind of like amazon and netflix now inserting ads into the movies you watch. It’s sucks. It’s a bad experience that leaves a bad taste in ones mouth.

I can’t watch Netflix unless I have my wife’s login. There are no ads to be seen once I do login, but plenty of content.

I do occasionally look for information and get a YouTube video… then I do see an ad or two, but I don’t need to pay for premium.

[AnnoNiem]

@bmike

I can’t watch Netflix unless I have my wife’s login

So you are an illegal user of netflix!?!?

Oh boy, i am sure trimble would not like it when you would use your wifes sketchup licence. You should buy (rent) a license for yourself!

[jlo1]

This is absolutely not true. Google does tons of moonshots that never make money. They subsidize all that from what does make money which is primarily 1 products - search. Even Youtube makes far less in comparison to search.

On your 2nd comment, Netflix now has a new slightly lower tier that allows commercials that they introduced when they raised the prices of all the existing tiers last time they introduced this new tier. Amazon started using commercials also within the also year.

[bmike]

@AnnoNiem

So you are an illegal user of netflix!?!?

Well no. We are in the same household. She had it before we got married…

[ateliernab]

@jlo1

This is absolutely not true. Google does tons of moonshots that never make money. They subsidize all that from what does make money which is primarily 1 products - search. Even Youtube makes far less in comparison to search.

ads.

google is selling ads. all they do is to maximise their capacity to sell ads. google map is free to use because in return we add details and maintain the database so ads can be better targeted.
and from time to time, they do something that doesn’t look like selling ads. because it’s an ad for themselves.

I’ll mute this thread, reading it makes my IQ drop by the minute.

[jlo1]

Great. Thanks for muting!

[Wo3Dan]

@ateliernab

for free. every 5 downloads, they get a 35s ad telling them a paid subscription is great. and they go back to their downloads.

Jeez, why can’t I see the adds. Just downloaded 21 models and still nothing. What a bummer!

[Elmtec-Adam]

Raise a glass to Google — the unwavering moral compass of the digital era.

• Monetising your private emails? Just “helping you discover what matters most.”
• Swallowing startups and quietly killing off their rival products? That’s called “innovation.”
• Lobbying governments while preaching about “organising the world’s information”? Pure “community service.”
• Hoovering up the entire internet to train AI models without permission? That’s the “open-source spirit.”
• Tweaking search results for maximum ad revenue? A textbook case of “optimisation.”
• Paying billions in antitrust fines? Merely “global collaboration.”
• Exploiting student data for targeted ads? Think of it as “educational outreach.”
• Bankrolling climate disinformation while bragging about sustainability? Ah yes, “healthy debate.”
• Allowing far-right and extremist groups to run ads until they rack up millions of views? Just “supporting free speech.”
• And designing a YouTube algorithm that gently nudges viewers from mainstream videos toward more radical, conspiratorial content? That’s not radicalisation — that’s “personalised discovery.”

[jamsog]

Yes, as a contributor, it would really be kind to consider if there will be a charge for access to really good models, then I think it’s only fair to provide some credit to the uploader - Content Developer Credible, and some thank you option?

I have models on 3DWH, proud to share a selection, but I was not aware of download limitations, and I have never seen any announcement about the download issue. Have I missed something?

thanks

James

[ateliernab]

@jamsog

I have models on 3DWH, proud to share a selection, but I was not aware of download limitations, and I have never seen any announcement about the download issue. Have I missed something?

well there was an email in 2020.

@aterani

" Heads up SketchUp Free Users!
The number of models you can download is changing. Starting July 1, 2020, you will be able to download up to 100 models per day, and 1,000 models per month. [To have unlimited access to models on the 3D Warehouse subscribe to SketchUp.]"

and an announcement on the forum

Download Limits on 3D Warehouse

We would like to help folks understand why we implemented download limits on 3D Warehouse. A small number of 3D Warehouse users have been downloading very large numbers of models, thousands in a day, every day. This activity is clearly not for their personal enjoyment of 3D Warehouse. It is content aggregation and a violation of the 3D Warehouse Terms of Use. Most of these users have never uploaded a single model to 3D Warehouse and some of them are reselling the downloaded models. Our goal i…

other than that, nothing really changed. it’s still free for all, trimble is not charging anyone for the models. especially not you, since you’re a subscriber. but still, nobody else.

[RLGL]

Maybe the way to end this madness is to limit the warehouse to paid SketchUp users.

[jlo1]

Don’t be giving anyone ideas…

[francisquitof]

Anyways, most of the models from the 3D warehouse are useless for what they’re supposed to be, assets. They’re too heavy, modeled in a bad way, are a mix of other models with a lot of tags in different languages and there are some people that just want to troll, and create models with geometry placed miles away from each other or found a way to make corrupted files that have created some issues for beginners and new users.

The guy who doesn’t even use sketchup and is complaining about the 3D warehouse said that he is capable of creating very detailed models with his super awesome software Livehome 3D, why doesn’t he create the models he needs to use on that program and create his own library instead of downloading from a library of another software?

I agree with Dave, all this tantrum would be solved if Trimble limits the 3D warehouse to subscribers only.

[jlo1]

There certainly are a lot of bad assets in the warehouse but also certainly many great ones as well and I’m very thankful to have had access to this resource over the years. You take the bad with the good since it’s community driven.

[jamsog]

Aha so all same as before and no hysteria limiting huge amount of downloading people’s models for the purpose to sell on yes… raskals!

[ateliernab]

yep. since 2020 the limit for free users is 100 a day and 1000 a month to limit aggregators.
the solution they’re trying right now is a 35s sketchup ad every 5 download. but as far as I tried, the 100 limit is still there. it’s just gonna take people 10 more minutes because of the ad.