An efficient workflow is the one that works for the user, What works for you may not work for me and vice versa. My left hand is always on the spacemouse and nowhere near the keyboard. Right hand holds the stylus and can hit the buttons on the touchscreen or keyboard.
It works for me, I would never suggest you have to do it that way. IMHO
The efficient workflow is one that enables users to complete the work as quickly as possible.
Work methods that require users to be constantly distracted from the screen to look at their devices and move their hands away from the keyboard and mouse take more time and are therefore less effective.
It’s similar to touch typing on a keyboard. You may say that you don’t like it and it doesn’t work for you personally, but it is still the most efficient way to work on a keyboard and should therefore be recommended for most users.
Let’s agree to disagree shall we…
exactly.
and there is always someone who will tell you their workflow is more efficient and that you should adapt yours.
good for them then.
also, to not be off topic, MX master 2 (cheaper than the 3 and pretty much the same stuff) + mx keyboard.
at first, I used them on the same usb dongle, but realised it used up to 700-900mb RAM (on a 16gb machine) so I switched to bluetooth, no problem for now.
And because of my job, I almost don’t use shortcuts, I had to un-learn them, and even when I do, I use the standard ones, inefficient as they may be.
And I still manage to be efficient
MX master for right hand. SpaceMouse for my left. I don’t use the buttons on my SM. It is just there to make navigation easier (and boy does it do that well!). I do use two of the buttons on my MX. One is mapped to a double click, the other to a triple click (which works in all programs, not just Sketchup). I find it is all I need.
I did try mapping more buttons but it just confused me.
MxMaster 3 here as well. Best mouse Ive ever used. I have thumb buttons mapped to move, orbit, select, ans top buttons mapped to group and make component. Its a major speed increase not having to keystroke those most common used tools.
I responded to the main post but mapping all the buttons to your main functions in sketchup is a major speed boost. 5 you can map
I use Logitech ergo M575 for Sketchup and ALL my computer needs. Easy to use, easy to configure, lots of options. In addition to roller ball, it has 4 buttons that can be configured in many ways. I love it and have been using it for about 10 years!
Oh! Haha Thanks for clarifying!
Thanks for sharing that! Your space is so clean and uncluttered. I suppose if I were using SketchUp for a paid job I wouldn’t be so…flexible… about letting me desk get too cluttered!
Excellent point!
That’s interesting! I just bought my son a Razer wireless mouse and keyboard that say they can both share the same dongle. I had no idea it would use up RAM to do this. Good to know!
Now I have to be nosey and ask what it is you do that doesn’t allow you to use shortcuts?
That’s actually an excellent idea, especially for just starting off getting your feet wet with shortcuts. It’s not so many shortcuts as to be confusing but just a few simple ones to make things more efficient. Thanks for sharing!
I teach sketchup.
And one of the main thing when you teach a software is that they need to see what you’re clicking on. at least when they start their entry training.
say I show them how to make a cube.
- I could shortcut the rectangle tool, quickly
click
and type my1;1
and pressenter
, thenP
, quicklyclick
and type1
andenter
, and thentriple click
andcmd-G
- but no. they are learning sketchup, most of them are learning 3d at the same time, so I’ll go click on the tools, and slowly make every step so they can read it and understand.
They know there are shortcuts, some of them adopt them very quickly, some even make their own shortcuts after a day or two, but some, after a week, still need to repeat the different steps out loud.
And it’s perfectly fine. actually, saying out loud the steps you’re taking is a way to reduce errors.
(@Box does this in his forum videos, he has a custom toolbar that will show what he is clicking on, even a delete button. that’s good tutorial stuff )
depends on the software. MX mice used to have the logi option software, maybe 2-300mb after a whole day.
Now they use logi option+ and if they are both on the same dongle, it requires logi bolt to manage it.
add them both, and you’ll get close to a Gb of RAM at the end of the day.
With bluetooth, the process takes less than 100mb.
I do use a lot of shortcuts. I just prefer to use the keyboard for them.
Oh okay! Forgive me for not knowing, I’m new to these parts
Do you have a website or youtube channel or do you just do private/paid lessons?
Being relatively new myself I completely agree with that. Before you start using shortcuts, you should have an understanding of how to do what you want to do without using them first.
I think it’s similar idea as with using extensions. Extensions can be serious time savers, but first you should have knowledge of the fundamentals.
I’ll be on the lookout for those!
Are you referring to the regular keyboard shortcuts or do you make your own? If you make your own, are you just remapping some keys or do you have a keyboard with extra keys for this?
90% of the buttons I press are on my mouse because I use a Logitech 20 button mouse and the Lord of the tool bars extension.
Ah yes but that is my specific designing setup, the workspace I spend a lot of time with is covered in junk.
For the sake of on topic, note the Logitech G502
@AdrianeS generally the more extra buttons on your mouse the better. G600 no brainer. Also don’t forget to utilize numpad keys plus LOTT
I use the Logitech M575. I tried a Space Mouse but I then needed 3 hands. One for the keyboard shortcuts, one for the mouse, and one for the Space Mouse. The Logitech M 575 lets me zoon and orbit with out having to move a mouse.