No - they are currently rewriting it and released an alpha version. Some people are seeing faster results, and some people currently aren’t. The final release is a ways down the road, and at the moment Cycles is still very slow. Fingers crossed for a better result though
Good topic,
I hope Trimble will improve SU from 2011 ( time for bought from google )
But long time SketchUp have few update and improve. I don’t know why.
Today I just read new from Graphisoft and DDS CAD will be merged, bad new for Revit and SU, maybe? and user only waiting new vision and big change in road map for SU for BIM workflow?
Thanks
Off topic, providing links is helpfull in this rant or thread:
Archicad or Nemetschek realizes that integrations of disciplines is necessary, something that Trimble is working on for many years, now.
(Besides buying SketchUp they also bought Stabiplan four years back:)
Note: Stabiplan has a very powerful Revit extension and brings in 30 years of developing MEP software with constructible content, meaning, it can be build.
The Building department of Trimble also realizes the need for change in the AEC industrie with collaborate projects with different other companies:
Hololens with Microsoft
https://www.trimble.com/Corporate/TechSpot.aspx
Spot with Boston Dynamics:
Sitevision:
The list goes on. You cannot discuss the future of SketchUp without looking at the whole picture. My believe is that the pioneering vision of Trimble’s founder and his successors will continue to play a big role in the AEC industry, and even can collaborate or connect with Hollywood animation software.
Besides some funny looking chimneys, I haven’t seen much of it.
Most architects do not have the time to develop their own tools, they are in constant discussion with the client or other stakeholders during the design and building process, the real work is done there.
But everyone free to create and develop his own software😉
Materia (not MatterMachine) is another development which will eventually be available without the programming hassle of Grashopper.
You keep trying to ‘expose’ the bad and mean intentions of Trimble that it will steal your ‘work’ but you haven’t given us any proof or example. In fact, with the achieved ISO-IEC-27001-2013 certification and since all important stuff is heading for centralized, cloud based data, I also put more faith in Trimble than Apple or Google etc.
https://connect.trimble.com/ISO-IEC-27001-2013-Certification
The problem with subscriptions is not using them. How can anyone justify making money from people not using their product? Usage statistics could determine an appropriate cost per user as a fraction of a yearly subscription. What if the use cost could be offset by teaching others or sharing best practises? The bigger picture is about enabling people to use the product and helping them achieve things they dream about. Like the honesty of politicians can increase voter turnout and quality of government, Sketchup developers can and should focus on facilitation and pushing sketchup toward a civilization shaping instrument The most important thing is to listen what people have to say and to investigate their ideas. An Astutely helpful subscription ethic could wisely temper the vision of developers and empower sketchup to whole new levels of use.
So, posting almost daily lessons on YouTube and launching a learning site maybe?
I hope Trimble will improve new MEP solution such as Trimble Plancal ( Trimble Nova ) to completed BIM solution with SketchUp for Architect, Tekla for Engieer and Trimble Nova for MEP
If use Stabiplan it only plugin for MEP library and it run on Revit, is competitor with Trimble?
Tks
They have a little stand alone application (Stabiplan LT : Trimble MEP) which can produce lightweight ifc files, though. (E + W)
It would be great if their MEP-contents (now mainly Revit families and .dwg) would be made available as SketchUp native files, perhaps in a different section of the 3D Warehouse.
Let’s not get personal…
I guess I was thinking more about users sharing more with each other. Personally, trying to make a model of a roof I want to put a new roof on and then not being about to heal a final surface after taking all the measurements along the wall of the house and noting the pitch and length and height of roof surfaces is discouraging. I spent a few days trying to do it. Sketchup has a few weird things like I select a line that represents an edge or a side and measured with a tape first and then copied the line and pasted it on to a flat laying version of this side of the roof and it did not paste the same length. The surface that I copied the line from was all blue from beginning to end and positioned at the roof angle but selecting the whole length did not paste the same length onto the flat.
Previous to making a flat laying version of this side of my roof drawing, I noticed that connecting the lower roof to the upper seemed to cause the angle of the hip to change: it was 46.2 degrees instead of 45 and that is why I thought it would be good to make a flat version and then rotate it to pitch and move it to position. Still didn’t work… I have made some simpler models successfully but as soon as I start trying to do something more complicated… often something goes wrong. It’s extremely frustrating. Even when using components things still didn’t line up. So that is why I’m saying if the developers… the people who wrote the product were to “care” about people like me. If someone had written me a short note and said "Hey, we didn’t notice any usage of the software except once during the whole of 2020. Is there something specific that is giving you a problem? Could you describe what it is you would like to do so that we could advise on some best practices in your particular use? In 2020 paid how much for the full version of Sketchup? $700 Cdn?? Was it the year before I can’t remember but I used the program once. I was feeling kind of left out by not buying the pro version but it really didn’t change much for me. When I watched a bit of a video about the 3d base camp it was kind of inspiring though: It kind of painted a picture of a bunch of people who really enjoy using Sketchup and who were eager to learn . I see myself as one of those people. I was also really thinking that since Sketchup is something that helps us design interesting things that actually the way Sketchupers interact is kind of how all people should interact when it comes to world problems. Again, probably straight fantasy but I enjoy the thought non the less. Thinking that developers should keep themselves a bit hungry and really care about whether people are utilizing their software successfully is a small but important and great example but maybe too abstract and then I"m asking the question "To what length will/should we go to help people along and clean up some issues here and there about subscriptions etc.?
Does anyone have any tips for trying to put an existing roof into sketchup? What principles should I be following when using measurements taken from going up on the roof. I know about the point of origin I"m not using a picture however. I know about inferencing or using the arrow buttons to make sure a line is actually parallel on the red/green or blue axis… just have a hard time to make it work. Hopeful, but firstly trying to be clear.
You really should make a new topic about your question, as it has nothing to do with the future of SketchUp.
And I guess if you would have done that sooner, it would have saved you a lot of frustration…
It’s total BS. They’re doing everything they can to force people to subscribe to something that has been free for a decade. This is a new low.
Yo ho, mateys.
@popculturella , SketchUp has never been free for commercial use, and it still is free for hobby users… So what are you trying to say?
Yes, it’s my choice whether I like (or like to hate). It is also up to me to decide what improvements I expect.
Of course, I can also hate if something isn’t working the way I want it to or an obvious mistake isn’t fixed. This can be scolded angrily. But after such a loud scolding, I always remember that I got a lot more fun than a headache.
I know about it and I also voiced my opinion.
I’m not worrying. I paid them a price, got what I needed.
I leave them the opportunity to develop their own product the way they want. If they want, they will take into account my opinion, if not, then not. I did not payd for that to make a decision about the future of product. The company is not mine.
If I won’t like the product later, I’ll say thank you and go on.
Convert on demand is really the only sensible solution and could be a massive cost saver. In the Aerospace & Defence engineering firms I’ve worked this is the way, we never maintained the model libraries; too costly.
Trimble could clear out a metric tonne of unused models in an instant and start from a clean sheet. Keep the original uploaded version; retain any user demanded conversions; archive any models not accessed within a certain timeframe.
??? SketchUp Pro has never been free.
I agree about subscriptions. In what way does it benefit me, the consumer? Why would I want to keep my stuff on somebody else’s computer? I realize lots of companies are going that route, but that only makes things worse.
Subscriptions bring in a steadier revenue stream for the vendor. Hopefully that indirectly translates to the vendor releasing a better product over time (as compared to what might happen with a traditional one-time license model). The history has yet to be written for what actually happens.
Note that a subscription to SketchUp Pro, at least, does not force the user into storing their SKP model files via Trimble Connect. You can store them on your local computer (which is in fact the default behavior). Nevertheless, why might you want to, given the option? For some people, the ability to access the same file from any computer is useful. Also, in principle the safety from accidental deletion or corruption of the file is generally higher (compared to consumer-grade storage devices) when a company implements their cloud via mission-critical rated storage solutions.
depends, if you have used the free SketchUp Make for Professional purposes since decades, one might get the impression using a SU Pro version… somehow.