Hi, Ho, Mac OS 10.14 Sketchup/Layout 22.0.353,
Dilemma; I can send to Layout from Sketchup into a new file just fine. When I’m working in an existing Layout file and want to insert, the file is ghosted in my search and unavailable. other files will show up, but some will be ghosted. Sure I can send to layout from Sketchup into a new file, copy/cut/paste into the file I want, but I want to know what the problem is. Included both files. Eric_William_Pierson_Set_Designer.layout (1.3 MB)
Have you already got the SketchUp file added to your LayOut file once? Do not insert a SketchUp file more than once into a LayOut project. There is never any reason to do that.
Again, if the LayOut file already has a viewport from the SketchUp model do not add it a second time.
You’ve share the backup copy of the SketchUp file to your post. The tilde in the file name is the clue. The references list in your LayOut file shows you’ve also been adding backup files of several different SketchUp files. That’s not a good thing.
I’m sure my work flow is HORRIBLE, I’ve onlty been using these programs for a few months. I’m doing 2D drawings in Sketchup because when I tried to do them in Layout it was not a good experience. The ergonomics were not as intuitive as Sketchup.
Blockquote How did you create the 2D drawings on the second page of the LayOut document?
They (pages 1 and 2) were painstakingly done IN layout, brutal.
I don’t even have a ‘new doors’ file without the (~)? is that even possible?
any suggestions on how I should be doing precision 2D drawings that would transfer to sketchup / other rendering program? if it needed to become a 3D drawing, I mean, I figured this was one way to do that?
you save your file at 9h37 , it’s now named potato.skp
you save again at 10h21. now you have two files : potato.skp is the 10h21 version potato~.skp is the backup. meaning it’s the old 9h37 version.
say now you save again at 11h10 potato.skp is the 11h10 version potato~.skp is the backup. meaning it’s the old 10h21 version.
(for those of you out there on a PC, yes, on a PC, it’s not ~.skp but .skb instead. way way way better because you can’t open skb with SU by default, you HAVE to rename. unlike on mac. hence the decade-long confusion)
Now, the main sketchup file is potato.skp without the ~
that’s the one you should work with. and include in your layout file.
the one with the ~ is the backup in case of mistake.
if you open potato~.skp and save it again, it will create a potato~~.skp - a backup of a backup.
if you want to make a ~ file your main design file, and not a backup anymore, just rename it and remove the ~
great, I’ll make one of the back-ups the OG. In the picture I sent you, it shows the “ghosted” (visible, but not able to be selected) file name. but I guess if I rename one of the backups, it will become the OG and should work?
understand, I’m just copying other PDF drawings of 2d drawings that need to be replicated to scale. Maybe that makes sense of what I’m doing.
in theory, I would be pulling from slices to make scenes to send to layout, but in this case the extra work would have been drawing it in 3D in the first place.
do you suggest drawing in Layout? because I found that HORRIBLY inefficient.
this is what I’m copying (added file.) when I first tried to copy drawings like this, (pages 1&2) i couldn’t figure out how to bring the pdf into layout in the size and resolution that made it feasible, so knowing how to do it in sketchup i just figured do it that way and then I have more control of the shaded ares etc when it goes into layout? Any suggestions, I’d love insight on work flow in this matter. Because at 54 years old going from a physical laborer job to a desk person job for health reasons, I’d love any form of suggestions, direction etc.
In case it happens, I have seen a Mac issue where importing or inserting files of a valid type can appear grayed out in the file list. Still don’t know why that happens. The file can be selected and will insert ok (I just tried LayOut and had an example of that happen, the SKP was still selectable).
pretty sure we can blame mac os on this one, I had a similar issue last year (previous os) in illustrator and something else, asked apple, they told me “have you tried making a clean wipe and re-install your machine ?”
and I stopped there.
This year (ventura), I haven’t noticed it. or maybe I’m just used to it.
Hello Ewillyp, like you i struggle with trying to evolve a suitably productive method of work with the Sketchup/Layout software - as a technical documentation software it’s unnecessarily complex and clumsy most of all it’s not intuitive. In an age where software is user friendly, the Sketchup/Layout is a failure. I’ve been using it for more than a year, i love the 3D capability for concept design and “selling” a design (I’m an architect doing mostly residential projects) - but when i have to produce technical drawings for the approval authorities - it’s a very slow and annoying process.