I’m having similar problems with the slow performance in LayOut (updating viewports, rendering with {hybrid} and LayOut not responding) 8839.37KB model size.
The “Green” box indicator also keeps running and the “yellow” exclamation sign pops up.
System: Windows 11 and latest version of SU and LO (recently downloaded and installed to try to improve the performance) after looking at the topic issues with layout in the SU Community.
How frequently does this happen for you? I’ve seen this type of behavior a few times in LO 2025, but not frequently. I have to force quit, and thankfully have never lost work due to auto save and file recovery.
Have you tried leaving everything in raster and then using the override for hybrid only when exporting?
It’s happing all the time, I’m using 2 SU files both linked to the LayOut file (an “existing” planview and “proposed” view) models in SU (construction drawings) I don’t want to “force quit” not even sure how to. I haven’t lost any work but the time it takes to update, or recover is unacceptable.
No, I have left it in raster mode for the viewport update then switch to hybrid. Are saying when I export the layout file to the PDF version I can do this? I don’t think that will fix the problem ie; its still slow before I get the chance to change the rendering style.
There could be a few factors, but what is your “Display Resolution” set to in Document Setup? Keeping it on Medium in Display Resolution and High in Output Resolution optimizes your speed within Layout.
And yes, tick the output override box. It will convert all raster viewports to hybrid when you export.
Thank You! I’ll try it.
Keep it all in raster.
Are you using the new or old graphics engine? Try the new one if you haven’t already.
Go into Document Setup and you can set it to override to hybrid on export.
And maybe share the file so folks can try and help instead of guessing. You can drop it into a reply, or if it is too large you can use DropBox or WeTransfer, etc.
Also update your forum profile - I assume you aren’t using 2021 anymore (and what I suggested won’t work in 2021).
Ok, I think I used we transfer correctly, and the link is good for 3 days. At least I’m learning something new, so thank you.
I followed your suggestions and opened the files to see if it worked…layout wouldn’t even respond I updated the SU files and relinked them when LO opened and 2 seconds later I got the Layout not responding. I did notice that an error message was being sent to Microsoft..I use google as my default browser, not sure if that is useful.
Can’t really see any issues with it - other than the usual stuff… I can get around just fine on my machine.
Loose geometry should stay on ‘Untagged’ - unless FlexTools or ConDocs is messing with things:
My guess is that you are taxing your machine with some of these components… do you really need a toilet with 64,000 entities? Or a faucet with almost 100,000 entities?
Or these detailed pieces of hardware?
I would consider removing those and replacing with something simpler. Unless you are doing photorealistic product placement rendering there is no reason to have that much detail in those components.
To test it - do a Save As, delete those components, purge the model, relink to LO and see if it behaves any better.
Attached is a PDF of Raster and Hybrid output.
513PierceAve-Hyrbrid.pdf (12.0 MB)
513PierceAve-Raster.pdf (10.8 MB)
I’ll try it out. The components are downloads from the 3d warehouse, maybe I should explode them and try to trim out the excess entities. I was thinking about the flextools components also…It’s the 1st time I’ve used them in my models.
General Question: What’s the point of using the components and extensions from the 3d warehouse and SU, if they make LayOut so slow. I think the whole point of bringing an accurate scaled product (name brand sink or dishwasher or any other appliance) into the model is to see
I don’t need to show every thread on a screw for the client to understand their plan and section views.
Your model and drawing wasn’t slow for me, but your machine might be bogging down with all that useless geometry. I have far more complex projects than what you shared.
*I say useless, because typically a lot of the models from the warehouse (from manufacturers) are made in software other than SketchUp with lots and lots of detail that simply IMHO is overkill for architectural design and modeling. Yes, there is a certain ‘WYSIWYG’ that is nice to show clients - but do they need the rubber o ring and the perforated aerator in the faucet to understand it will be a modern, contemporary faucet? We aren’t making wiring and switch drawings for an Apollo rocket…
**And I often include lots of little details and plants and weeds and grass and trees in my renderings, but those are done in VRay and take hours per scene to output… as pretty pictures to show clients or to use in catalogs and web sites. Not to dimension and build from.
***The complexity of the components should be directly related to the story you need to tell. Building plans do not need to be as detailed as showing every tiny surface or a door lock or thread, much less all that detail in the toilet.
I’m beginning to understand. Thank you for all your help. I’ve learned a lot from you.
