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Waste of time. Anybody has a statistic how may user suggestions have been implemented by Trimble?
I can think of six or seven off the top of my head without even opening SketchUp. At least that many again in LayOut. Youâve alreay decided itâs a waste of your time though so I wonât go into it.
Nice, I like the web interface , I look forward to the day it moves closer to that.
SketchUp actually always has a lovely search tool that was introduced in 2022
Shift+S or the dog/magnifier-reticule icon in the menu bar
I love the work youâve done so far. I have been using a Stream Deck XL and I like using dark buttons to match the ambience of the room. I havenât been able to find any good sketch up icons so if itâs cool I might take the ones you have posted here and try and see if they will work as button images.
This looks like a potential improvement of some of the web based user interface. But this would be a severe oversimplification and unsuitable for the desktop pro application.
Occasionally my 2023 glitches as it loads and the Ui goes black - I sometimes wonder if thatâs a glitch into the future!
Thanks for sharingâŚhere are the ones I created for using in Chief Architect with a stream deck.
Iâve found that using an iPad works the best. 64 buttons on a single page.
Thanks, Dave! You are always so âobjectiveâ and âunbiasedâ when it comes to SketchUpâs shortcomings!
yeah. I meant, itâs a nice proposition, but if it were up to me, Iâd pass, even though I wouldnât mind a dark UI version.
IMO itâs too far on the âsketchup - photoshopâ scale.
On one hand, sketchup, quirky icons, colourful, easy to recognise, wanna move something ? itâs the red cross (yeah sure itâs four arrows⌠câmon, itâs a red cross).
on the other hand, in photoshop, I have students who donât recognise icon meaning anymore. I tell them to grab the eraser, itâs a weird black and white oblique rectangle.
When SU revamped the interface for the web edition, they simplified stuff, made it more minimalist, only three colours. And already itâs a lot, I donât like using the web interface, I have to ACTIVELY look for tools, decipher the icons, instead of going with visual memory. the tape is not yellow anymore. stuff like that. Sure, itâs clean and modern, and for a new user, itâs no big deal. but for existing users, such a design change could be a LOT.
Here are two similar redesign cases weâve seen recently that are, again, in my opinion, not great
Again, the blue ones are stylish, the concept behind, cool. but looking at the 3 red ones, without the names, it had a logic. If I told you back then âthere is one for 3d volumes, one for 2d plans, one for changing the aspect of the volumesâ, most people could have guessed that the red 3d cube is for the 3d volumes and the flat icon with lines and letter the plan one.
Looking at the blue one, you loose that logic, itâs all 3d, Style builderâs icon makes an S, it must be Sketchup then, and this time the 3d cube is layout.
Thatâs the risk of going too far in the uniformisation and minimalism of UI. itâll end up looking great in the demo, but not as intuitive for users.
(that one needs no explanation)
on paper, in theory, sure. harmony, all you want.
in practice, itâs hell. itâs all pretty much the same, especially icon size. Iâve stopped teaching about the 4 icons in the toolbar, itâs easier to show them the menus. most people see a blueish hexagon in all cases.
again, nothing against your work as a theoretical exercise, itâs clean, itâs neat, but it becomes so clean and minimalist and uniform that it looses its ease-of-use. Professional softwares donât have to be at the tip of the design trend. they have to be efficient. if you used the colour code from web/go/ipad, it would make a fine dark version for these I think (there is a reason why SUâs team still used red as a contrasting colour, and not just shades of blue. the red in the web icons is actually important to see what the icon will do)
yeah, I re-edited my post, added a comparison red/blue SU icons to mark my point that you can have good looking smart design and yet not so great UX.
well if people are allowed to make âobjectiveâ and âunbiasedâ criticism of sketchup, I donât see why other canât make similar praises. it cuts both ways.
I agree with you on the icons Pierre.
IMO thereâs something classic and fun about the desktop icons â instantly recognisable as SketchUp.
The web icons are non descript and not fun.
One of the reasons that I donât use the web version is because I find the icons grating.
Hi pablopcb,
Looks initially good to me, especially the âDarkâ option which most other professional programmes have had for sometime now. Would be good to see an option for this put forward by SU HQ sooner than later.
It might even persuade me to change from my SketchUp Pro 2021 Classic Perpetual license to subscriptionâŚ
I would downgrade if anything like the web icons made their way into a future desktop SketchUp.
Unless SketchUp give us the option to choose between classic and new icons.
itâs nice to see they resisted to the sirenâs call of minimalism, the icons remain the same, on a light grey background.
Thatâs the sort of stuff I could get behind as a SU dark mode.
Hi ateliernab,
Itâs also interesting theyâre discussing a future upgrade with their audience rather than the SU-HQ⌠âŚ!
Crazy looking backdrop drawingâŚwhat is it
How hard is it to have themed icons?
Not hard at all. Except when you need to convince the marketing department to allow some creative freedom.
Thank you, Pablo.
I like what youâve done; however, if it were implemented it would, likely, be a problem for long-time users who have become so familiar with the existing UI that movements are second-nature. I would like to see it implemented but it should be done such that it would be an option that the user could control, like themes are. Iâm a hobbyist user of SU and could likely adapt to the change easily.
My programming skills are ancient; so I donât know if this idea could be implemented reasonably, but Iâd like to see some way to use mouse clicks to bring a pop-up menu of icons in close proximity to where the cursor is positioned allowing the user to make minimal cursor movement to select a new tool or tray option. Right clicking in Windows causes a pop-up menu to be displayed. Thatâs the sort of thing Iâd like to see. Iâd also like to see a feature allowing the user to control the position of toolset icons. I find having to move from drawing location to toolset menu and back to drawing location a bit âclumsyâ (if thatâs the right word) or excessive. This could, perhaps, free up screen space devoted to always showing menus and trays.
I wonder what others would think of the idea.