same issue. have to click the eyedropper again on the paint panel to get it working.WOuld be curious to find a solution as well
Elsewhere in the forum there is a discussion about the alt key having issues
I noticed if you slightly rotate the view, the alt key works again.
Yes, I said that already - but it’s been closed without there being any solution/conclusion, hence my bringing it up here.
ah, I’ll give that a go, but it still means an extra “move” as it were…
I’m having the same issue on a Mac…any suggestions to fix this?
See this message I posted at the end of May:
Hi! I saw this and didn’t quite understand it at first because—and you are allowed to laugh—I could not understand what “Go” meant in your explanation. I have since figured out that you meant the drop down menu at the top of the screen when you’re in finder, not some sort of folder named “Go”. Anyways, I thought I would post in case there are other dummies out there like me. This solved the problem. Thank you.
Do you know why groups behave like components? (it happens since a couple of years).
If trying to modify a group that has a copy, I’m warned that the operation will affect the other copies of the group. That a nonsense: if I want such a behaviour, I would create a component, not a group!
That’s sounds odd. I’m not seeing that at all. MacOS 14.8, MacBook Pro M1 Max and SU 2026 (English).
What plugins do you use? When you make copies of a group all the copies are instances of the original until you edit them, but on both my machines Mac and windows, I don’t see a warning when I edit groups or components, just when I change the axes on components pops up a message like the one you’re seeing.
yes, for a simple reason, weight.
when you make a component, and place it 5 times, sketchup registers the geometry of the component on one side, and then the location of all the copies. meaning that in the code, it’s mostly 1 component and 5 coordinates.
When you make a group, and copy it 5 times, sketchup has to write in code the geometry and the location 5 times.
meaning your 5 groups file is likely 5x heavier than your 5 copies of component one.
for some time now, sketchup has been cheating.
when you copy groups, it behaves as if they are components. And as soon as you enter one of the groups to modify it, it becomes a real independent group)
you can see the behaviour in the fact that it tells you “XX copies” in entity info, despite it being a group.
in this example, I make a group, and then 5 extra copies. entity info tells me it’s now one of 6 copies. then I open one of the groups, and close. entity info now says it’s a solo copy, and the other groups are now one of 5 copies.
that, on the other hand, is weird.
do you have a screenshot of the error message, or maybe a recording of what you’re doing right then ?
I noticed it was happaning that copied groups became “solitaire” when edited. But it is unconfortable when some of them are locked.
Here what happens (MiniMac - Apple 1 - MacOs 26.5.1 - SU 26.1.188 in italian)
ok, I can reproduce it.
make a group, duplicate it, lock one of the copies and try to open the other one.
this is 100% due to the behaviour I was describing. It’s a way for SU to limit the weight / quantity of geometry to remember.
@colin might be worth making it a bug, the switch from group (but actually component) to actual group should be seamless.