Scale grips handles missing

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#1

Hi!

Still having strange issues. Sorry for constant bombarding the forum with questions (but I guess it’s made for that :P).
In my model some scaling handles are missing. I cannot scale group in Z axis. I made it a component, applied a dynamic component attribute: Z size to 100 cm instead of 3 but still I cannot scale it manually.
I downloaded Curic Behaviour which controls displaying scale grips but it’s set to “all” so it shouldn’t influence. I don’t know if this plugin could have messed with group’s scaling behaviour. The model I’m sharing comes from a bigger model in which other groups scale normally.
This one is somehow ill-formed. But SketchUp doesn’t ask to fix model when saving. I also opened this model in SU16 (made in SU17) where I don’t have Curic plugins - no changes.

scale handles missing SU16.skp (545.6 KB)


#2

You have restricted the size to 100cm in your components attributes.
So naturally the z axis scale handle is missing.


#3

explode it and make a new component…fixed


#4

Pcmoor, unfortunately not fixed.
Regardless I re-group or “re-component” it, the grips are still missing. Anyways, as I had multiple instances, it wouldn’t help me :frowning:

Box, it happened even before I set component attributes.

The thing is very strange. I exploded it and made a feew smaller components. All of them scale properly. But if I select these two on the left and put them into a new group or compo, it still misses the Z scale handle.


#5

I looks to me as if the issue may be that these objects have zero initial thickness? When that is the case, the scale tool doesn’t offer a grip for that direction because it makes no sense: quick, how thick is 5 times zero? However, there is a slight inconsistency since the scale tool normally will accept an absolute value rather than a multiplier if you specify the units. Perhaps the developers thought that to be an unnecessary special case since pushpull would achieve the same end.


#6

you have an initial thickness of 30mm…

as a proportion to the smaller items area, 30mm will trigger all scale handles…

as a proportion of the large component it is simply not enough difference…

if you draw a rectangle and PushPull 300mm inside the comp, the scale handles will be shown…

your model also has 2248 entities not on Layer0, which can lead to other issues.

john


#7

Right, this is the simplest solution. I didn’t think about it earlier. I just drew a vertical line 10cm high and the handles appeared :smiley:


#8

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