Rhino 7 access

Voortzetting van de discussie Blender Discussion:
Since it is off topic, I created this thread to discuss the ways to access Rhino 7 inside other applications.

The link I provided redirects you to the current plans for charging this service, there is no mentioning of adding a classic license.

Which states at the end:

Single-Computer licensing Not Supported

When running on Windows Server, it is not possible to enter a license key to run as a single-computer license, as Rhino requires a license per core.

Your link just redirect to sales, which could be flagged as spam…
(Other than to have access to the Beta, you would need to have a Rhino 6 license)

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Rhino 7 is not sold. It is under development and accessible to Rhino 6 user’s as beta.

There is already connectors between Grasshopper and Archicad for example, and it is free.

When Rhino is logged in to a service account and is running on a Windows Server-based operating system, you will be billed $0.10 per core per hour that Rhino is running (pro-rated per minute).

Example 1: Rhino running on a 32-core server for one hour:

  • 32-cores * 1 hour * $0.10/core-hour = $3.20

Example 2: Rhino running on 200 4-core servers for 6 minutes:

  • 200 computers * 4 cores * 0.1 hour * $0.10/core-hour = $8.00

What is this talk about servers etc…? AFAIK to run Grasshopper inside another application (like Archicad, a demo of which I have seen) you have to have Rhino installed and licensed and the required plugin. I don’t see why someone couldn’t create a Grasshopper plugin for SketchUp, too, if worthwhile.

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If you wanna have true advantage of generative design, you need computing power, otherwise, exploring designs becomes a tedious task. ‘Compute’ offers render power, you pay per usage. (besides a ‘normal’ Rhino license, of course.
You would need to upgrade, as well (Rhino software is delivered ‘As Is’, like many other software, older version will not work.

The company I work for also sells Rhino, we always like to get the right tool for the job (like in SketchUp :slight_smile: )

https://www.rhino3d.com/compute

Yes, of course. But they have cool licence policy, no Trimble.

For example, I work on Rhino 5 Mac with Grasshopper. I will update to version 7. I am not interested by v6.

In this case, i do not lost my license, I do not pay more as Trimble SketchUp, etc…

With the discontinuation of SketchUp classical license, it would be impossible. And I don’t want to rent software.

Rhino and some other companies as Google, Apple, Affinity have cool licence policy. No Trimble.

Today I had a lunch with an architect who teach BIM in important school and we have discussed about Adobe since subscription. I’m not looking at Adobe since subscription. He told me that Adobe do not innovate into their application since subscription.

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It is a special usage. I do not know this situation. I trained people on Grasshopper, participate to sensitive developments with. I did no have seen such needs.
Grasshopper v6 is faster as I read, but is ok on v5.

We have a different approach about generative design. My approach is a complex drawing made by an algorithm plugged to simple drawing. If I modify one of them a get another complex drawing. It take a few seconds. If I try to do the same by drawing, modifying on SketchUp it take an hour.

Five seconds on Grasshopper v5 without server service or an hour on SketchUp. This is my experience.

Try running both at the same time like you can with SketchUp

Both Rhino v5 and 7 ? I do not see the need.

You can run Rhino 5, 6 and WIP simultaneously without a problem and multiple instances of the same version, just like Sketchup. (I am talking about the Windows version b.t.w., the Windows version runs a single document per instance. The Mac version is able to run multiple documents per instance)

Yes, on one machine, it was actually about the fact that SketchUp’s policy is many times smoother than other software packages. I can still run SketchUp 2015 at home on my old Macbook and work in the office with the same license upgrade on iMac. This might be the reason why some users are upset: ‘je geeft ze een vinger…’

I don’t think I understand it. I have Rhino 6 installed on three pc’s, it has a sort of floating license. If I used it at the office, and want to run it at home I retrieve the license from the Cloud Zoo (license server). The number of installations doesn’t actually matter. If, for some reason, I want to use it on the train I don’t need to have an internet connection. Every 15 days of being offline I need an internet connection to the license server.
If I don’t want to use the license server I may have Rhino installed on two pc’s (comparable to Sketchup).

An educational license can be used for commercial projects and can be upgraded to a commercial license when a new version arrives and is perpetual. (I am unaware of other commercial software with such a flexible license)

(Edit: Not using the license server at all is actually restricted to one PC)

the right person for this task is David Rutten :slight_smile:

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I don’t know if Sketchup has .NET API. But it could be possible.

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Yes, those are the benefits of cloud based licensing, it is not about which device, but who is beyond it.

that’s 28 day’s with SketchUp Subscriptions

If you wanna use Rhino ‘offline’ (eg. not only without the ZOO, but not contacting McNeel servers at al) you are restricted to installing on one device.
SketchUp allows two ‘offline’ activations (of course, ‘classic licenses’)

That’s a nice policy, indeed

You are right, I had to check it, that’s why I use Cloud Zoo. (works nicely b.t.w., but I can understand that people don’t want that)
These are all the licensing options:
https://www.rhino3d.com/6/new/licensing-and-administration

Sorry, I work daily with Rhino, I don’t see licence problem