Good day!
I have a problem which I never had before and would like to have feedback from the real pros on this forum.
I want to start with filling the floors of my sleeping area and created a line between the hallways and the sleeping area, but it seems not to limit the filling of that area.
Any feedback what I am doing wrong?
Much appreciated.
House u hoeve 2.skp (10.3 MB)
Start from here, with the basics of SketchUp - learn.sketchup.com
You only have raw geometry, learn about groups, components and tags first. You will apply the materials last, after you have correctly built your model.
You are telling me that I cant fill because I am not using groups, components and tags?
I was just telling you that it would be logical to learn to use the program first, but if you want to continue what and how you started…
The floor or the walls are not flat, this has probably been caused by having Length Snapping enabled.
If you look around the outside of the walls you can see the thicker profile line disappears in places. This means the bottom edge isn’t cutting the floor.
Length Snapping can be turned off in Model info/units.
When a model has this sort of error it is usually easier to start over than it is to fix it.
Using groups, components and tags would also make that easier.
Not sure what your point here is with your gif tbh. That indeed works when I do that.
I was under the impression that Sketchup is a low threshold sketching software where you can just draw and paint without having to worry about tens of settings messing up the drawing.
Dear lord, starting over again because of again an error. This is the second time.
Maybe it is time to move to something less prone to f*cking up because of a setting.
Maybe devs should consider why they are building the software in the first place, to get people as productive as possible with the least amount of hassle.
I can build much faster my drawings this way, as such the software should facilitate this without messing up with other parts of the design functionality. It is just breakage and a software fail.
I researched the forum and came to a post of you:
Interesting that Mihai puts the issue on my lack of using components and groups, while even more pro users as I ask themselves why the f*ck this happens.
Using groups and components will lessen the likelihood of you accidentally moving a vertex which will then be exacerbated as you continue with loose geometry.
Excuse me for my intellectual ignorance, but should the software not take care of not losing geometry?
When running specialized math against drawings I understand, but this is just to draw and sketch? Why?
I said Loose geometry not losing geometry.
Sketchup is a profession tool that can display accuracy to 6 decimal places of a mm.
It can also be used to randomly sketch stuff.
Either way it can only do what you tell it to do.
Well, I just want to sketch and fill surfaces with colors.
How difficult is that for a software to manage?
Are there settings I have to change to ensure I just can draw and prototype, even without keeping track of strict line sizes and lenghts?
Basically,
Turn off length snapping.
Use the rectangle tool more than the line tool.
keep an eye of inferencing. use the arrow keys if needed to lock to planes.
use groups and components to isolate geometry.
Here I have made a version of parts of your model in four groups.
The walls, the floor itself, a slab and the surround.
I didn’t do the parts underneath, nor did I make the hole for the stairs.
These should help you get the model working again.
Remember, with groups you need to open them for editing, so a quick double click and you are in and can edit. Click outside the bounding box to close again.
So draw in the rest of the floor divisions as you want while open for editing and add colours, then close the group.
House parts.skp (51.1 KB)
This software has a learning curve. It is best to start with the tutorials mentioned earlier in this thread. If you have no experience with this type of software the curve may be very steep.
Thank you for your effort!
I really appreciate it!
Edit: Now I understand why I am so confused. Sketchup wants to be an Autocad/Revit without the advanced assistance.
How about sketchup devs create 2 modes, freehand sketching and then CAD?
If that’s your take on all this, I’m sorry I wasted my time.
The wisest thing you can do right now is to make the free courses for beginners on the link that was provided by Mihai, sketchup is an underrated software that people think is just for quick sketching, but it actually is a very powerful and complex modeling tool capable of doing anything you can imagine, but there’s a way to do it right, loose geometry will only cause you a lot of problems if you keep working on the model without fixing it. Creating a group es very easy, every time you create something like a wall, you select everything, right click on the element and on the contextual menu select make group, components are groups with some attributes, the main one is the capacity of creating instances of an element, that means that if you create a component and make copies of it, when you edit any of them all the copies will be affected, for example if you create a door, make it a component and copy the door on different places of your model, if you decide to change anything, all the doors will change. That’s just the beginning, you should learn more about the software so you can have a neat model easy to work with.
Sketchup doesn’t want to be like Revit or Archicad, it’s completely different, it is possible to work usin the BIM methodology on sketchup but it’s not the main feature.
You did not. Now that you have shown how sketchup expects to draw
I have been looking for a low threshold tool and there is nothing out there that suits my need.
In any case, allow me to explain myself to why my reluctance.
I am not an architect, I am someone who is rebuilding his house and wants specifically just to draw his plans for the architect so that the architect can do the real technical drawing.
My need is to have a software where I can draw something understandable for the architect and can do some basic coloring and interior positioning.
Because sketchup is a best of both world tool, it had to find the balance between a cad and a sketch tool, which has been leaning more into a cad than a sketch tool because when I use it as a sketch tool I am getting blocked by the limitation of the tool to facilitate my sketching needs.
The drawing I made, I made in 2 hours.
How long it took for you to create this version?
I would say: Every software has a learning curve… However for simple sketching SketchUp’s learning curve is not that steep…
But you should always learn the basics of a software before creating an opinion about it…
I am currently working with the drawing box made and that seems to make things easier to understand without spending weeks going through the learn section of sketchup.
However, as I have a use case that most likely is different from most people in this forum, my opinion stays that I should just be able to draw freehand without having to be limited in functionality to facilitate others their needs.