Page set up setttings

Hello is there a way of making page settings permanent? Mine keeps changing back to A4 everything I open the file again. Same for Layout as well as Sketchup? I am now confused as to which size my plan should be as it keeps changing in Layout and messing up any extra detail I have added there. Thanks.

Are you printing directly from SketchUp and LayOut? If so, the A4 paper size is coming from your printer. As for output from LayOut, you should be selecting the desired paper size when you start your project. Create a custom template if needed to include the paper size you want. Then DO NOT print from LayOut. Instead, export a PDF from LayOut, open that in your favorite PDF reader and print from there.

Hi thanks for getting back to me. Yes I chose A3 template in Layout and in Sketchup when I started but it keeps changing ot A4 any time I open the file?

If that’s the paper size you are selecting when you start a LayOut project, the exported PDF will be A3, too. If you print directly from SketchUp or LayOut the paper size will be the default size for your printer. Unless you change the printer’s default to A3, it’s always going to return to A4.

Best practice is as I described. Set up your custom template in LayOut as needed including the A3 paper size. (There are many other things that can be set as part of the template, too.) When you are ready to print your LO document, use File>Export >PDF. Then open the resulting PDF in Adobe Reader or whatever you have and print from there.

Hi thanks. I have just made a couple of videos to show you which I will DM. My concern is that I select A3 at the start and then when I check it, it’s A4?
I am confused now as my elevated plan is 1:50 and floor plan is 1:50 and they are wildly different? Clearly I am doing something wrong!
Thanks :slight_smile:

You’re trying to print directly from SketchUp or LayOut. Why don’t you try what I told you to do?

I am not printing anything at this point. I am literally just trying to size the documents and even though I select A3 it is A4 when I check it and I have to keep changing to A3 which i am worried is messing up my plans.

Page Setup in SketchUp is for printing. For the third time, it uses the default paper size from the printer.

If you try to print directly from LayOut, you’ll get the same thing.

Ignore Page Setup in both SketchUp and LayOut.

Again, set A3 as the paper size in LayOut’s Document Setup. Set out your viewports on the paper as needed, add dimensions, annotations, etc. Export a PDF from LayOut and print that from Adobe Reader or Acrobat.

Do this correctly and it won’t mess up your plans.

I am choosing A3 but also my plans seem very different in size but both 1:50 @A3. How can they be so different when they are both the same scale?
You sound very frustrated with me - I am trying my best.

Share the LayOut file so I can see what you’ve set up.

Sorry if I sound frustrated with you but it seems you’re ignoring the instructions I’ve given you.

That’s okay. No I have just been trying for hours and am getting really tired! Thanks I will.

I have both of your LayOut files. Neither one of them have the viewport scale set to 1:50.

In this one the viewport scale is set to 1:82.873.

The other one is set to 1:21.8847.

Where did you see that these were set to 1:50? Is it from the legend thing at the lower left?


If so, that’s just text. It has no effect on the scale of the viewport. It could say Apples:Watermelons if you type that.

In both cases you did set the paper size to A3 so if you followed my instructions and exported a PDF from each file, the paper size would be correct and if the printer can handle A3 paper, they would print correctly.

It’s clear you need to spend some time going through the educational materials for both SketchUp and LayOut at learn.sketchup.com

You should be creating scenes in the SketchUp model to use for the viewports in LayOut. Then in LayOut, set the viewport scale to 1:50 if that’s the scale you want. You do have a plan view scene in your SketchUp model for the plan but you are using Last saved SketchUp view which you should not be doing.

Here I’ve selected that plan view and reset the Camera. Then I set the scale to 1:50.


And the resulting PDF export.
LAYOUT PROJECT 4 SHARE.pdf (151.5 KB)
Note that the small text labels you added over the viewport will need to be moved into their correct locations now that the scale is set.

Presumably since these two LayOut files are for the same client they are the same project. You should be creating a 3D model of the space and then creating scenes to show the plan, elevations, and any perspective views you need to show in your LayOut document. You can create multiple pages in LayOut so you don’t have a separate LO file for each view.

While I’m going through this, you also need to learn to make components and groups of discrete objects in your SketchUp model. Currently the vast majority of the plan model is all loose geometry.


Also make sure you are using tags correctly. ALL edges and faces should be created AND REMAIN untagged. Only groups and components should be given tags. Here I’ve fixed that in your model.

Also keep your models clean. Purge unused stuff from the model once in a while.

Again, you should take the time to learn how to use SketchUp and LayOut correctly. It’ll save you a lot of frustration and worry.

Thanks for checking them. I set them to 1:50 in sketchup so assumed they would be?
Thanks for the other notes too.

That has nothing to do with what you get in LayOut.

Right okay. Thanks.