Nope. Not using the Experimental engine. Win10 / su2025 latest version.
Went to place a drawing in a new layout and it just closed, not even a bugreport box.
This sucks. Make it stop.
beep boop beep.
done. it’s fixed now.
more seriously, I don’t know. it’s not a lot you’re giving us.
did you open layout then insert the file ? did you send it straight from sketchup ?
could you share the sketchup file ? there might be some clues in there ?
opened layout, chose a template, dragged the skp file into it, layout closed instantly.
did it again and it worked fine - not reproducible.
Don’t do that. Use one of the two correct ways to add the SketchUp file to a LayOut template. Either use Send to LayOut from SketchUp’s File menu or use File>Insert in LayOut.
well then, I’d say there might be something problematic with the sketchup file. can we look at it ?
it’s been edited heavily since, no point.
wait wait are you seriously telling me drag-n-drop is unsupported wrong way to do this?
that would just be yet another very stupid development failure
I went to the Help Center page for inserting SketchUp models in Layout:
Importing a SketchUp Model | SketchUp Help
… and then clicked on the Trimble AI Assistant (magic button lower right) and asked:
Can SketchUp models be dragged & dropped into LayOut?
… the response was:
SketchUp models cannot be directly dragged and dropped into LayOut. Instead, you can follow these steps to import a SketchUp model into LayOut:
- Send to LayOut Option:
- In SketchUp, use the “Send to LayOut” option found in the Getting Started toolbar, the Large Tool Set, or the File menu.
- A notification will prompt you to save your model.
- LayOut will open and ask you what type of document you would like to create.
- A viewport containing your model will appear in the new LayOut document 1.
- Importing a SketchUp Model:
- Learn how to easily import a SketchUp model into your document.
- You can make changes to the model without going back to SketchUp and sync both your LayOut document and SketchUp file, sharing changes across both 2.
These methods ensure that your SketchUp models are properly integrated into LayOut for further editing and presentation.
2 references:
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Yes. Dan makes that clear.
In addition you should not copy from SketchUp and paste into LayOut due to the way the references are created. Copying from an external application and pasting into LayOut results in an embedded reference file so there is no connection to the original source. As an example, I’ve copied and pasted the views of a SketchUp model into LayOut. You can see that each viewport has it’s own embedded reference file in the References list.
Not one of the viewports, then, is connected to the original model so any edits made to the original .skp file will not be reflected in LayOut. In addition, if you wanted to do something such as changing a material, you would have to edit all four embedded SketchUp files to get it to show in all of the viewports. The multiple SketchUp references will result in a much large SketchUp file than is needed.
I wouldn’t call this a development failure. It has to do with how a LayOut file is actually constructed and its ability to mainatin a connection to the original references.
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Oddly enough, dragging and dropping .skp files into Layout has worked pretty consistently across the last several versions since I started using this thing - resulting crashes are pretty rare though I would say it’s happened a bit more with 2025 than any previous version I have used.
UI design that ignores standard features (like drag-n-drop) is crappy UI design.
I’m just gonna presume that it glitches often enough nobody wants to own it and have to troubleshoot, so instead it’s just “don’t do that then”.
I get it when this happens with open source / freeware, but I pay a lot of money every year for this thing.
I paid a lot of money for my car. I put in the fuel that the manufacturer recommends.
But I’m inspired now by your posts. Tomorrow I’m gonna fill it up with gasoline. They says it’s a diesel, but every other car I see uses gasoline. Do you think I’ll break it?
I had not been aware that a generically standard UI feature that I had been using successfully for years was not actually supported, until today.
Most of what is good about Sketchup is where its intuitive UI features work well and quickly.
I’m saying it is poor design to leave good UI features out unsupported.
I would expect that dragging an .skp file into LayOut should work the same as File > Insert and choosing the .skp file. Ideally you’re only doing that once and then duplicating the viewport from there on out rather than inserting again (although that also should properly detect that it is the same .skp file being inserted and use the same file reference).
We have been tracking various causes of rendering SketchUp models causing LayOut to crash, and our 2025.0.3 patch has addressed some of those. Are you on the latest release? Are you getting Bugsplats and sending them in, or is LayOut closing with no Bugsplat? If the latter, there’s an issue with one of the third party libraries we use that we are patching in a future release, but in the mean-time there’s a workaround you can read about here:
Adam
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when i do it, i only drag in the .skp once then copy the viewport after that
(i often use other means too, ‘either send to layout’ or relinking existing viewports - depends entirely on what i’m doing with things)
it’s a pretty rare glitch, and doesn’t usually repeat when i try it again
i am on the latest release
no bugsplat, just poof - layout closes and disappears
then when i start layout again, the little notification box appears to suggesting that the ‘experimental’ graphics engine crashed it - which i do not have enabled
fortunately this glitch generally only happens at a phase when i am not losing any work by it, just have to reopen layout and try again
but the minor nuisance compounds to vitriol when the scold box comes up to tell me i have a setting wrong that i patently do not
Note that this is referring to the SketchUp graphics engine, and NOT the LayOut experimental graphics engine. Also note that this is really more of an indication that LayOut crashed when trying to perform a render and that is not ALWAYS because of the new SketchUp rendering engine (it’s just guessing).
Please do give the workaround I mentioned a try.
Adam
I had not realized Layout2025 still had backward saving.
Now I have no reason to ever try to open the older version of layout.
(Actually the Layout back save to 2021 would be another workaround to get models backsaved since SU 25 no longer does that - other user could save out the model file from the layout …?)
yep. it’s a bit convoluted but yep, it should also work that way.
paying Dezmo a beer is simpler though.