This morning, for the first time, when I try to update the file refence in a LayOut file, the program hangs completely. It seems to hang when I try to relink or unlink as well. This has occurred regardless of the graphics engine being used to generate the SU file.
As of now, I cannot update any LO versions of this file.
Help, please.
Can you share the LO and associated SketchUp file. Share them via a PM if you don’t want to make them public.
How best should I do this, Dave? Too big to send via GMail. Will a Google link with all permissions work?
Upload to Google Drive, DropBox, or We Transfer and share the link. If you’re sharing privately, click on my name followed by Message and send the link in a private message.
I have your files and. I can see why LayOut would be slow to update the reference. For one thing you have more than a million and a half edges which LO has to render or at least consider for rendering for any vector- or hybrid-rendered viewports.
You could simplify the model a great deal by doing a little surgery on the vehicles. Do you really need the undercarriage detail on the pickup truck. Do you need its interior? Same with the Honda sedan.
Eliminating that kind of unneeded detail would reduce the entity counts and the materials which will improve performance in both SketchUp and LayOut.
I just added those this week for fun and obviously didn’t pay attention to their complexity. I don’t really need them. I thought for sure you would comment on the two versions 1000" apart. When I first did this project 8 years ago, I believe it was the only way I could get certain “things” to show or not show properly.
However, this file did manage to update its reference to the bloated site included vehicles until today. That’s what is puzzling.
I wondered about the two versions. I expect you could simplify that part of the model down to one. Even 8 years ago you could have used layers to control which version is displayed or not.
I wonder if it’s something on your computer. What changed between the time it would update and then wouldn’t?
I deleted the vehicles and purged unused stuff from the file. This reduced edge count by nearly a million file size by 70%.
I used replaced your .skp file with the vehicle-less, purged file. It updated the viewports in less than 15 seconds.
I recorded a video. This is real time, unedited. The update is complete when the References list refills with text. I added a rectangle to mask out the title block content. I hope that’s OK.
Great minds. Well, not really, yours is greater. While you were doing that, I also deleted the vehicles, saved the file which also purged it, and tried the LO file again. Yes, it updated just fine.
It is possible that I did NOT update that specific LO file after the cars. I do have a cover sheet file which does update fine and has the cars - which is puzzling.
So, what is your guess - too much stuff? I will continue to try to simplify these files … and the cars if the mood strikes.
Dave, as always … thank you very much.
I wouldn’t be too sure about that but thank you for the compliment.
Good deal.
I think so. Unfortunately a lot of the entourage stuff you find in the 3D Warehouse is modeled with more detail than you need unless your entire project is about one of those. The authors often aren’t modeling them so you can stick them in your project file as a bit of background. They are modeling them almost as if you’re going to reverse engineer them for manufacturing. If you’ve seen any of my steam engine models you know that I can go down that route, too. But I would never suggest adding one of my steam engine models to a display shelf in a model of a house. There’s way too much detail in my engines for that kind of use.
Best workflow for using entourage components is to open them first in a separate file so you can decide whether ofr not they are suitable. Clean them up if needed and reduce them to just what you need in order for your audience to understand what you are trying to tell them. Don’t tell them any more than they need to know. Once simplified and satisfactory, add it to your project model. And if you invest time making a pickup truck or a wine fridge suitable for your needs, save the component for future use so you don’t have to do it again the next time you need one of those.
You’re quite welcome.
Have a great weekend.
And you have a great weekend as well.
