LayOut - adjusting viewport grips takes 53 seconds

[renton555]

First of all, this is LayOut 2024. I installed SketchUp 2025 just to try it and to my dismay I couldn’t get the default skp open to change back to 2024, which I use for work. I chose to wait to use SketchUp 2025 until my extensions caught up to it in compatibility. However, since LayOut is extension-agnostic (THANK GOD LayOut’s purity remains unadulterated by 3rd party tools), I wanted to continue to use LayOut 2025 but keep SketchUp 2024. I don’t think there’s a way to just install LayOut 2025 but if there is I’m all ears.

Anyway,

• 16mb .layout file
• 11mb .skp file
• Purged model
• Materials resized to 1000px or less except for the base floor plan which is high res
• Statistics of model:
  
  
• Default layer geometry is mostly followed but I can’t run that tool because I tag edge banded faces of cabinet parts.
• Statistics of .layout - a whopping 4 pages and a staggering ten (10) viewports

I’m guessing its the expanded metal mesh. They’re 16k entities for each panel.

Why Sketchup is capable of rendering this mesh and everything else on my screen at this speed (and it looks better):

.. and LayOut renders it like this (and it looks worse):

… I’m sure I don’t know.

Taco Mamacita Northshore Back Bar and POS (1).layout (15.9 MB)
Taco Mamacita Northshore Back Bar5.1.skp (10.9 MB)

[PaulMcAlenan]

11 seconds to resize and 15 seconds to undo the resize on my system.

I created a 2D proxy for the 3D mesh and it was 4 seconds to resize and 6 seconds to undo.

The mesh looks much better in vector but then you lose the textures of the other kitchen parts.

[renton555]

15 seconds is still pretty bananas. I don’t know why mine is 4x slower though. Thanks for looking at it

[kevin58]

I usually reinstall Windows and all my software whenever things start to run a bit slower. It obviously takes a while to do, but it always seems worth the effort, as it seems to cure everything. I recon I do this at least once a year

[adam]

I’m going to take a look at your file to see how it performs for me. Out of curiosity, how long does a pdf export take for a comparable view from within SketchUp? That would be most analogous to what LayOut is doing for a vector render.

Adam

[renton555]

This situation again.

Taco Mamacita millwork model 2025-06-09.skp (3.6 MB)
Taco Mamacita Northshore Merch Stand.layout (4.9 MB)

3,685kb sketchup model
5,030kb layout file
399usd per seat per year

I reduced the mesh to a 2d face so that should be about 0.0001% as many faces and 1/2 as many points. Totally purged layout and sketchup files. I really don’t think the level of detail I’m trying to show is that unreasonable here.

[RLGL]

I tried adjusting the viewport on my machine, NO lag.

[renton555]

Did you set it to auto or attempt to render the viewport? I think auto might be turned off in the file. With auto on it was actually hanging permanently.

[RLGL]

Auto render is turned on. I have changed no settings.

[DaveR]

Enable Preserve Scale: 12 seconds
Resize viewport with Hybrid rendering: 13 seconds.
Switch to Raster and drag viewport wider: two seconds.
Make viewport narrower with Raster rendering: Less that one second

[renton555]

Okay this is obviously some graphics card stuff. I’ll update drivers and test it after. Thanks for looking at it guys. Recently purchased pc

[renton555]

Drivers update and turning experimental graphics back on fixed it completely.

Layout still sucks though

[Barry]

Thanks.