LayOut - adjusting viewport grips takes 53 seconds

First of all, this is LayOut 2024. I installed SketchUp 2025 just to try it and to my dismay I couldn’t get the default skp open to change back to 2024, which I use for work. I chose to wait to use SketchUp 2025 until my extensions caught up to it in compatibility. However, since LayOut is extension-agnostic (THANK GOD LayOut’s purity remains unadulterated by 3rd party tools), I wanted to continue to use LayOut 2025 but keep SketchUp 2024. I don’t think there’s a way to just install LayOut 2025 but if there is I’m all ears.

Anyway,

not viable documentation software for commercial purposes

  • 16mb .layout file
  • 11mb .skp file
  • Purged model
  • Materials resized to 1000px or less except for the base floor plan which is high res
  • Statistics of model:
  • Default layer geometry is mostly followed but I can’t run that tool because I tag edge banded faces of cabinet parts.
  • Statistics of .layout - a whopping 4 pages and a staggering ten (10) viewports

I’m guessing its the expanded metal mesh. They’re 16k entities for each panel.

Why Sketchup is capable of rendering this mesh and everything else on my screen at this speed (and it looks better):

hey why can't it just be like this for both

.. and LayOut renders it like this (and it looks worse):

not viable documentation software for commercial purposes

… I’m sure I don’t know.

Taco Mamacita Northshore Back Bar and POS (1).layout (15.9 MB)
Taco Mamacita Northshore Back Bar5.1.skp (10.9 MB)

11 seconds to resize and 15 seconds to undo the resize on my system.

I created a 2D proxy for the 3D mesh and it was 4 seconds to resize and 6 seconds to undo.

The mesh looks much better in vector but then you lose the textures of the other kitchen parts.

15 seconds is still pretty bananas. I don’t know why mine is 4x slower though. Thanks for looking at it

I usually reinstall Windows and all my software whenever things start to run a bit slower. It obviously takes a while to do, but it always seems worth the effort, as it seems to cure everything. I recon I do this at least once a year :+1:

I’m going to take a look at your file to see how it performs for me. Out of curiosity, how long does a pdf export take for a comparable view from within SketchUp? That would be most analogous to what LayOut is doing for a vector render.

Adam