Layout 2024 Crashing on new MacBook

I still hadn’t seen any slowdown, but reading your update gave me a couple of ideas. One thing that can take some time is creating page thumbnails, and I can imagine creating viewport reference images can be slow as well. Maybe being on vector makes creating those images be quicker.

I still can’t get any slowness if I try to make things as bad as possible.

Settings does have a Performance section, which could be tweaked to make things faster.

I seem to remember way back in 2017 maybe this was an issue with my joinery shop drawings (always in vector) - I ended up just using list view.

I also remember maybe around 2021 or so I would have horrible performance when adding text or dimensions and having a vector viewport.

At the moment I have a model with 5+million edge and 2-3 millions faces, 1400 components, shadows, AO, heavy line styles, and overly detailed custom textures, with no issues in Raster moving around the 24x36 20 page LO file. I use Hybrid override to export - but I’m curious to test tomorrow how it will perform if I change them to Vector or Hybrid on each sheet.

I am also curious as to what load might be coming from the referenced spreadsheets. I’ve never noticed that - but in my work they are all 1 page or less - so I might just add a bunch of old estimates to a file and see how long it takes to bog down.



I cant remember if i copied and pasted… Probably i inserted the image.

The largest image is just over a mb. I have like four images… and the 2nd largest is 429k… If thats the issues dear lord we have 1990s issues.


I’m… like lists.
Dont use thumbnails…

And I try to keep all my windows closed unless using them… If only because Nick Sonders said its best practice.

Yes, the fonts change size and look weird - on my machine they look fine when editing but look weird when I click out.

But they look fine when exporting. Export uses the classic engine.

I don’t care that they look off when working. And in the few cases I didn’t trust what was happening I turned it off, checked, turned it on again.

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I don’t know if this is relevant, but when you place JPG images on a LayOut page its practical “weight” is determined more by its pixel count than its file size on disk. JPG images are usually quite heavily compressed and to display them an application has to decompress them.

My training has made me neurotic about annotation line spacing…
That would be hard for me to put up with while roughing out the set…

I can feel the principle breathing behind me… 10 years ago.

Could be partly to blame… I use the best quality for my location image. The notes that nobody reads like ADA reach… yeah thats about as half-toned as a 19th century newspaper.

Are you using low quality for images while working and only high on export?

Yeah, but we aren’t in Kansas anymore and as much as I liked my Rapidographs and my drafting machine and my Letraset I’d rather have to deal with LayOut’s quirks.


This is the same on my MacBook as my Studio

The studio has two monitors


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The MacBook has the same LG at the office.
And at one point I thought that the higher res monitor with the laptop screen could be the issue… so I closed the book, with no difference.

Yesterday no issues.

Lg Monitor and screen, with 2 layout files and four models running a demonstration for the client with my space mouse driving through the model like an airplane.

I know you said you can’t share the files - but can you strip client info from the G sheets that are causing issues (maybe replace the images if they are specific with someting similar). I’m curious to see how this performs on my Studio.

And is the issue limited to the Sequoia machine or to both the Studio and the MacBook?

Sent you a direct message…