Heal or fill out an area which is not an area

This is way too simple probably - but drawing from different angles I am ending up with one area in the model which just do not want to fill. (The white area) Sometimes you need to fix by redrawing line randomly and the area will actually
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fill. I can do this on parts of this white area but not the whole part. Sometimes you have lines not being on the same coplane - z axes -being reason why it is not closing - I have checked and checked again but all seems to be on same level. Is there a way to trace or find where the lines are broken or not matching? Without any extension? With an extension? This happens to me every now and then and I usually just redraw the area - but it takes time escpecially when I have arcs and and curved lines…

Hi Susanne,

If you change the style so the Profiles are set to 1 and the face style to Monochrom, you can see some aras where there are multiple edges. They’ll appear darker than the other areas. Also reversed faces.

Those edges need to be cleaned up so things can be closed. I haven’t pried through all of it yet but I expect there are also some little short stray edges that need to be deleted.

Here’s another trouble spot. Note there are seven edges in that selection near the cursor. There should only be one edge.


I have been it to this before and end up here again with a lot of frustration. Any tip to avoid getting into this situation - drawing and not getting areas to close - would be very much appriciated. I have tried to be very accurate and make sure to draw everything in plane and not having too many lines paralell but still I fail. In the picture there should be at least 3 different areas -where I have drawn the colored lines. I just do not understand why it is so difficult to get them to close. OK I have some components/groups outside the group “Bergsbogatan 16-28” - but is it these or something else that makes this so difficult? I have tried to change line to 1 and have a style that enables me to see if there are any double lines disturbing…

Please help…
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It’s easier to draw coplanar if you draw on a big rectangle…

Thank you for your fast response. My area “Bergsbogatan 16-28” is a large rectangle -where I have started to drape important lines from an imported dwg - drawing… so I am trying to work in that way.

This made me think you were drawing instead of draping lines from an imported DWG…

In that case you need to make sure that the lines from the DWG are coplanar and correctly drawn as DaveR has shown you before…

Aha ok - I mean that the things I draw after I have “mirrored” the imported dwg file through the drape tool I try to draw very accurate…

Does it matter if the lines in the imported file are in coplanar or not, if they are grouped and transferred via drape to the rectangle I start with?

Believe me I have tried to follow the tip I got from Dave in January. But when he helped me in January I did not work the way I do now - then I drew from the imported file and it really got messed up - now I use drape instead into a “clean” rectangle. This is why I get so confused - I (at least I think so) work in a better more structure way and still I end up with same problem…

Redraw a few edges

mdl-07

It looks so ridiculously simple when you do it! :slight_smile: How do you know which lines you should redraw?! I have tried within the areas to do small rectangles without any major success. I have also tried some of the outer lines - but of course not the way you do it… and I still fail.

I am curious to know how you think - which lines to be redrawn?
How can I avoid ending up in this situation in the first place?!

Thank you so much - I will try to fix my file copying your way of doing it…

You’re welcome!

You start by checking to see that all points are in Z=0,000000mm and then you draw over an edge. If it doesn’t work, go with trial and error until it’s ok.
First of all, turn off the rest of the tags and work only with the visible problem geometry. You choose to test the larger surface that has problems, drawing a line about in the middle of it.
They’re kind of logical, and if you’ve been through this before, you already know what to start trying. You saw that in the gif I also left the attempts with errors.

If you work well and clean from the beginning, such situations are somewhat rare.

Thank you for your explanation - I guess I am not as good as I think doing it accurate and tidy… Still need more practice and work… :slight_smile: I am afraid I am far from those “10.000 hours” you should spend in order to be really good…

Btw it is very nice to see your recordings on how you do- I makes it easy to follow. thank you so much for you time… (I will also check your reply on my other topice more closesly another day - today it is focus on this project) :slight_smile:

I opened the group and deleted a line from the big rectangle. (this also deleted the face offcourse)
After that I was able to close all the “trouble” areas by drawing over one existing line per area…
Not sure why deleting the face helped though…

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Ok - thank you for this input. I guess this is my “problem” several ways are possible - and some ways do not work at all - I find it hard to see which ways that works and understand the logic - if there is any… Maybe I just need to work harder and practise more…

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I hear you!
I also don’t like it when I can’t get to the bottom of some problem.
Solving it without knowing why isn’t really rewarding and not a guarantee you’ll solve it next time…