FR - LO 2022 - sequences in Auto-Text - please allow scope selection of sequences - page, document, layers

When using a sequential auto-text, the incremented value increases across pages and if the “renumber” button is used, the sequence then renumbers across pages as well.

it would be nicer to have sequences be scoped to a page unless specified otherwise

this is currently inconvenient for two reasons:

  1. if i’m use the sequential auto-text for labeling drawings on a page, i’d like to have that number increment for each copy of that auto-text on that page only. right now, the increments span pages so if i go to another page and add that scrapbook item, the increment is now increased rather than starting over. so page a may have A, B, D, E and page x has C, F, G. i would prefer page a have A-D, and page x be A-D

  2. if i now renumber - my entire document using the sequence is re-ordered so page a = A-D, and page x is now E-G whereas i would like page a to be renumber A-D and page x A-D.

so my reference to a given drawing is “drawing id” | “page number” (or equiv).

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Hi @glennmstanton,

Thanks for the feedback on the new sequence auto-text tag. We are considering the possibility of adding the option to have sequence values set per-page in a future release.

I have a question on what you would expect the value to be for a sequence that is on a shared layer. Should it be a different value on each page? Would sequences on shared layers always be the first ones in the sequence on each page if you had sequence text on both shared and non-shared layers?

Thanks again for the feedback,
Adam

This would be excellent.

My initial enthusiasm for the sequence autotext was somewhat dampened when I realised that I could end up with a significant proliferation of sequence tags to allow for sets of numbering on different pages.

Especially if I’m to take advantage of the new autotext tags to create a document index sheet by having all of my documents in one Layout file (currently my document sets are split into several Layout files).

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i think it would be useful to have an option to have a scope where sequences are set by “unique” or “shared” layers and specifically scoped to pages as well. this could then cover the gamet - with the caveat that users should be encouraged to define meaningful names for their auto-text tags :slight_smile:

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I wouldn’t change using multiple layout files. The number one slow down in Layout stems from people loading all their sheets in a single layout file. Number two is vector rendering everything. Compound those two and it is destined to be slow.

I too ran into the same problem. The temporary work around for me isn’t elegant but it works for me until they come up with a fix.

In my use-case I wanted to label windows on each floor pre-pending the sequential alphabetic character with the floor level designation. In this case, a first floor and a lower level with pages designated P1 and P2 respectively. I wanted an octagon symbol to populate with 1A,1B, 1C for the 1st Floor…LA,LB,LC for the Lower Level windows located on the different pages.

First step was to make Custom Auto-Text with the tag corresponding to the sheet number. i.e. , with Type:Sequence and selected the Style: A,B,C. Next, in the format box I Replaced the first character with the designation I wanted to pre-pend. In my interface the default was 0####. I changed it to 1### (for ) and L### (for )

Next, duplicate each auto-text symbol Scrapbook layer and name each layer to something that corresponds to a specific page i.e “Auto-text Enabled - P1”, “Auto-text Enabled - P2”

Finally, I edited the symbols on the layers that corresponded to the correct page by replacing the default auto-text with the custom auto-text created in an earlier step.

So now just open the Scrapbook page that correspond to the sheet you are working on and click on the symbol you want then click all around the page and you’ll see the auto sequencing behaving at least as I need.

Even if you select the Renumber Sequence option, it doesn’t have an effect on the symbols on another page that were put there from the correct Scrapbook layer.

It took longer to figure out how to describe it than actually making the changes in LayOut. I hope that helps.

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