Cutting angles on components

So I am doing alot of wood work designing and possibly not the best method but I’ve created multiple pieces of wood (i.e. 2x4, 2x6, 4x4 etc). They are all local components and easy for me to grab and use.

The problem that I am running into is related to being a component (I think).

I can create say a 2x4 rectangle 8’ long. Then using the protractor to say define a 45 degree angle line. push/pull let’s me easily “cut” that piece off.

However if I grab my 2x4 component and push/pull it to 8’ long and then try the same with the protrator, I get the angled line but push/pull effects the whole board, not just the “cut piece”.

I sure hope I explained myself well enough but if not tell me and I will try again.

Thanks for any help.

Just taking a guest at it… are you opening the component to edit?? if it is a component and you single left click it to highlight, it should have a blue bounding box around it. When that happens double click it and the box should be grayed out (opened for editing) Then add your 45* and try cutting off the waste.

This may help with what I am trying to explain…

Your description confuses me on a couple of counts.

First, the protractor tool generates a construction line, not an Edge, so you must draw the Edge corresponding to the line before the original Face is divided so that you can pushpull the cutoff piece. I assume you did this but forgot to mention it, since you say pushpull worked on non-Component geometry.

Second, your description of what happens when you have a Component leads me to believe that you did open it for edit prior to pushpull (pushpull won’t even let you select a Face in a Component that is not open for edit). But, most likely, you generated the 45 degree construction line and Edge before opening the Component for edit. In that case, the Edge is not inside the Component’s entities context, can not cut the Face, and pushpull will therefore act on the entire Face.

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I should try and list the steps to help clarify…

Say I want to cut 45 degree angle on either end of a 2"x4"x30" piece of wood.

  1. Grab component (which is for example 2"x4" flat rectangle).
  2. use the PP tool to make it a length of say 30"
  3. double click component to edit mode
  4. use protractor to make a construction line
  5. press shortcut ‘L’ to change to line tool and make line over the
    construction line
  6. try and use the PP tool to remove the small piece off the end of the piece of wood.

Number one: don’t use a component unless you want every piece of 2x4 to have a 45º cut on it. (Or copy the component, then make the copy unique [r-click menu item] before trimming it.) Use a group.

There are millions of ways to get a 45º cut; the one you listed is just one…

(Option 0 is follows your steps, except as step 6, you simply move the outside line on the blue axis until it snaps to the guideline, then delete the guideline.)

  1. make another copy of the geometry and rotate it by 45º, then select all the faces of the first object and “intersect with model”, then just delete the excess bits. (Solid tools in the pro version does this on one step.)
  2. Select the longer line and rotate it by 45º then use the push/pull to trim the bit and erase the extra length of line.
  3. Select the top line, start to move it down the blue axis and type in 2" [return] (it’s a 45º cut, so the distance down must be the same as the distance across)
  4. draw a line down from the corner 2", then join it up with the corner and use the push-pull. (You could follow your steps and add a step 5.5 to draw a line on top of the guideline across the face - this is the same)

I have used all of these methods at one point or another, depending on circumstances.

This is another good opportunity to show how the tool tips of the inference engine are here to help.
The diagonal of a square is 45deg, so start at the point you want your cut to be and draw a square, split it and away you go.


rotate copy an edge to desired degree or slope, then select the perpendicular edge and move in required direction use the shift to lock and inference to the copied line to finish the “cut” or rather change

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Your sequence of steps is confusing. (One important step seems to be missing)

In 3) you open the component (correct) to edit it, creating a guide (4) and a cutting edge (5) over it.

Yet you don’t seem to open the component to then P/P it to length (2), which is only possible in editing context. You probably just forgot to mention the step.

So all seems fine (considering the step you forgot, my assumption). Then in (6) you should be able to P/P the end of the “piece of wood”, still in editing context, to get rid of it.

I think that the problem with his steps is the assumption that a guideline is a piece of geometry - it’s not. It just creates a guide to snap things to. After the guideline is in place, you need to draw a line to create the triangle shape you need to push/pull.

@gadget2020 , drawing the edge over angled guide is mentioned in his point (5).

It may be that either he/she isn’t in edit mode or both faces (front and back of the “piece of wood”) aren’t parallel. Or… something else.

I missed that… it could be they have come out of the object and are drawing on top of the group rather than in it, or they are not snapping to the intersections properly when drawing the line, or…

This doesn’t work if the stud is inclined (not along 3d axes)…

Why not? Do you mean the ‘Rectangle’ tool to draw the correct rectangle?

It works for me. I guess I must be doing it wrong since you say it doesn’t work for inclined studs.

For me too, whether with basic geometry or with grouped geometry when in editing context.

Indeed it does. I was off making the second screen capture when you wrote. :wink:

I just used pencil and paper to see if it worked as expected …:grin:

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yes, but the cutoffs are not horizontal, they are on an arbitrary angle based on your rectangle.

Doesn’t have to be. Depends on the dimension of the rectangle you draw.

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