I’m still on El Capitan, and not planning to update to Sierra until the SU forum reports that issues are all fixed.
And I do understand that SU 2014 came out before El Capitan, so they are not designed to play well together.
I still hesitate to use Layout only because the learning curve is significant, and because I don’t need ‘professional looking’ drawings for what I mainly do - quick working drawings for scenery construction, which often get revised more than once. All I really need is some screen text to identify the drawing, the date it was drawn, and perhaps a revision number, and key dimensions. SU dimensioning is ‘good enough’ for that, in the kind of work I do.
If I were (like Steve) doing professional cabinetmaking with a need to make presentations to clients, I’m sure I’d invest the time in Layout, and in using materials, images and textures in SU and transferring models Layout for presentation, like DaveR. But for getting it ‘good enough’ for half a dozen other retired colleagues who enjoy making scenery, and get together mostly once a week for work and a quick pub lunch, SU with a few printouts to PDF does it well enough, and quickly.
And the other major limitation of Layout for me is that its dimensions are not associative - so if the SU model changes size (at least as I understand it) you have to reposition all the dimensions drawn in Layout. If that changes in a future version of Layout, I’d find that really encouraging and would probably try it again.
And the SU dimensions themselves go very peculiar in Layout - the text size jumps dramatically in size, as do the arrows, as I recall from one attempt to use Layout on an already drawn and dimensioned SU model. (I posted here about it, some time ago.) It became effectively useless to have done the dimensions in SU, as they wouldn’t stay looking the same in Layout. Possibly that’s a result of difficulties SU and Layout have in dealing with high res screens and/or text handling?
I hardly tried Layout when I was still using a Windows 7 machine with a Full HD screen (1920 x 1280 from memory), so I don’t remember if there was the same problem with dimensions not transferring well from SU to Layout without any ‘hi-res’ complications, if that indeed was what caused my problems with dimensions.
If I had more time to invest in Layout, and a more pressing reason to, I’m sure I’d enjoy learning more about it. I’m far from Luddite, and very much enjoy learning new stuff. But there isn’t for me any great drive or necessity to improve the presentation for the current group of users of my output - it might be nice, and give me some sense of achievement to make it look ‘more professional’ but nobody would really care much if I did that!
At them moment, they all think it’s magic that I can draw in 3D and show them the results! Several others have tried, both with SU and other programs, but no one else at the Theatre has got very far with learning SU.