And people complain about Windows

Check this out, Monterey upgrade issues

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These incidents are incredibly rare, and nearly all were fixed easily. It’s actually not common at all despite the article trying to make it seem so.

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There are always Apple bashers eager to sieze on and amplify any situation (real or imagined), just as there are similar Windows bashers. Nothing to see here…move along.


IT-guys don’t like macOS coz there is less things to mess up…

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My iMac is running Monterey ok, well enough even for me to run Windows 11 in Parallels. Windows 11 also seems to be ok too. SketchUp works well in Windows 11 it seems.

Given who wrote that article, many people will scan the text and come away with the impression that Monterey has a lot of registry issues.


Check this out,


Well stated!!

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I am not bashing Apple’s OS. Merely pointing out they are not any better than Windows.


You’ll get less errors if you use the other brand of pencil.


Mind you, yours is always upside down(under).


I heard that if you use Blender as an operating system, your computer will spit out gold bars!

(Sorry… could not help myself… and this IS the Corner Bar…)


You may not have been, but the article you cited was far from impartial. It cited a relatively small number of anecdotal reports as if they are evidence that Monterey is fatally flawed - that installing it is a major risk you might want to avoid - while ignoring the many thousands of users who have upgraded without issues.

It is the nature of the beast that any new release of software, especially an OS, will encounter computers with previously undiscovered issues and unexpected user configured customizations. It’s not all hardware!

A specific example: a couple of versions ago (don’t recall exactly which) I updated macOS and my MBP suddenly started taking tens of seconds to respond to each keypress. Just typing my password would require several minutes. The genius bar was at a total loss, finding no flaws in the hardware or OS. After a bunch of online reesearch i found that at some time my email provider had installed a network settings tweak supposedly to improve throughput, and that tweak was unacceptable to the new version of the OS. Deleted the little settings file and all was normal. Point being that regardless of proprietary hardware nobody could anticipate that sort of machine-specific configuration.


Window is stuck at 11, at least we got 12…
I always refer to the serengeti wildebeests migration:

You don’t want to be the first or the last to pass the river


I know from bitter experience what you feel when the relatively small number of issues fall upon yourself. The first 15 years of my private computer use was with Macs, I went through something like 6 of them, 3 bought used and 3 new. All the ones I bought new failed shortly after arrival and had to have their motherboards replaced by warranty. How easy do you think it is to convince me that Apple produces quality hardware? Yes, I am probably a victim of statistics.

A gigabyte of RAM should do the trick too.

For my first 15+ years with personal computers, I was on the bleeding edge of Mac machines and OS’s, but for the last 15+ years, I’ve become a trailing edge guy. I remember the troubles transitioning from 6800’s to PowerPC, from original MacOS to MacOSX, and PowerPC to Intel. Those troubles all came and went in time. I’m still on High Sierra, and upgraded to SU2020 a few month back! I can’t really go past Mojave until PowerCADD gets fixed. I’ll get there eventually, I guess.

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This is corner bar, so anecdotes are allowable I think.

Years ago, pre OS X, I ran mainly Linux and Windows on my personal PC and UNIX on my employer’s workstations. I was constantly amused by my colleges who used Macs at that time. They seemed to think that a hard crash once or twice a day was normal! They would receive an email from another Mac user with an attachment they couldn’t read - I would use a Llinux utility to convert it and resend it to them. No end of this sort of weird stuff.

Then my HP laptop became unstable and unreliable, so I looked around for a replacement. I wanted something with a good IPS display. Turned out at that time a PC with IPS was exotica and available models priced out within a couple hundred dollars of the price of a 15" MacBook Pro. Then I discovered that OS X, which Steve Jobs brought back from Next, is in fact a wrapper around a customized UNIX kernel. Took me right back to my comfort zone, so I bought a 2012 15" MBP. For the 8 years I ran it, the only issue I ever had was the one I mentioned earlier about an incompatible tweak my ISP had made to a network settings file. When its battery finally got too weak, I traded up to a 16" MBP and have had no issues with it either.

So, one’s experience and resulting opinion about Apple hardware may differ strongly across the transition to Intel. Since the Intel implementations have been pretty stable, so I can only hope they don’t abandon support for enough years for me to sort out whether an Apple SOC is right for me. By then I’ll probably be 80!

But it was! And the PC-s of the time crashed as much (anyone remember AutoCAD 13?) Windows NT was the first relatively stable OS, but I soon found out how to crash that too (it was something to do with my external CD-RW writer).

From my understanding, you stopped using/owning macs 15 years ago. They have changed most significantly since you left them, especially with how long their machines last.

About so. The reason I left them was not the hardware issues but that I found that what I had had become obsolete and would have cost too much to replace both software and hardware in one go. And I had already had to get a PC too for compatibility with my workplace and to run SketchUp (I never owned a Mac capable of running SU).