Sometimes supporting an underdog is good. Sometimes not.
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My personal impression is that AMD has a record of releasing drivers with faulty OpenGL support somewhat more frequently than Nvidia, and taking a longer time to fix them than the competition. I donāt think there is inherently anything wrong with their hardware. Another point in Nvidiaās favor is that it supports hardware rendering in V-Ray.
I am told that OpenGL support by AMD is better than Nvidia
Based on reports here in the SketchUp forum, that doesnāt seem to be the experience of many SketchUp users with AMD graphics cards.
interested to see which reports you are referring to. the ones I see here are from 2015
I based my comment on the many reports of graphics related problems that turned out to be related to AMD graphics drivers. Iāve only been watching this forum daily since 2014 but thereāve also been similar reports at Sketchucation since I joined there in 2007.
The best of both worlds would be a AMD (Threadripper)CPU with an RTX Nvidia GPU, according to V-Ray benchmarks
Is it relevant to discuss vray benchmarks on a sketchup / amd / opengl graphical error? Honest question. I donāt know what benchmarks take into account, but I wouldnāt have thought its anything to do with sketchup 2D exports.
I accept AMD GPU api support upon release has caused much strife, but driver fixes have resolved some matters. I bought my new pc a year ago and many of the bugs discussed will have been resolved before then. I knew I was taking a risk, but I felt it was worth it for the speed per watt per £. I was probably wrong
Overall benchmarks are a general thing. More specifically they are good for the PC they are run on to use as a comparison for later changes.
I love the discussion but it seems to have diverged from the inquiry. Iām having this issue as well. I do not many, if any, reversed faces in all of my models (I need neatness), I have Windows 11 up-to-date and all my drivers have been checked by AMD. Regardless of the graphics cards (I know itās important but cāmon, sktchup can operate on a web based service, on your phone, or on your computer⦠this shouldnāt be the issue). This does happen to me consistently accross any project, but not all of them - my hunch being poly-count and just too much geometry. My hunch came to an abrupt hault when I was able to fix one of my models by exporting with shadows turned OFF but this didnāt work on another file. I was able to figure out that copying the model to a new file works perfectly - except now all scenes have to be setup again (this is insanely troublesome, for myself, because of the issues Iāve discovered with image aspect ratios not being consistent from computer to computer thus messing up clipping boundaries in autocad yadda yadda yaddaā¦). Ultimately⦠we, us, SketchUp, or whomever, needs to fix this because I canāt keep taking screenshots and cropping images just for a quick visual-update to a client. For me, this issue almost renders SketchUp completely useless (for me) if Iām unable to quickly send really-cool looking 3D images⦠why use it if I canāt share what Iām making - Iād rather just use a different program/software that I know does that. Hopefully I have not directly criticized anyone on this forumn as I do believe this discussion is important and needs to be resolved ASAP. Plus, Iām sure everyone else here is going to be slighlty more knowledgable than I am, Iād love some help!
Do you still see this with SketchUp 2024?
Iāve been procrastinating switching from 2022 to 2024 because it seemed like more of a cosmetic update rather than a system update. I know there are new features on 2024 but none that seem to improve my efficiency. Iāve primarily been putting off the update because of the aspect ratio issue I have. In summary, if I touch my tools, extensions, or the default tray AT ALL, I have to readjust my elevations on ANY project that Iāve worked on (not a scale issue but rather a position issue). Moreover, if I update to the new SketchUp my aspect ratio will be different⦠Iām waiting for more projects to close-out so I only readjust 3 projects rather than 8 or 9. Not an easy transition, suprisingly.
Thereās a new graphics engine and so far as Iāve seen, no one has complained about the issue that is the topic of this thread.
You wrote:
At this point in time thereās no chance that SketchUp 2022 or even 2023 is going to get any updates or fixes.
Ahh that makes sense - Iāll definitely update when the timing is more practical for myself. It seems odd that Trimble or SketchUp would not continue to update 2022 & 2023 since theyāre so recent. Iām sure youāre correct because that does seem very plausable but that brings up some concerns of mine. By the sounds of it, I am required to switch to a newer version of SketchUp in order to use the software - yet transitioning from year to year seems to cause problems for us. Either a problem arrises between computer & software, old software & new software, or from computer to computer.
Like other software companies they never update previous versions once they make a major release. There were no updates to SketchUp 2022 after 2023 was released either.
What concerns?
No. You arenāt required to switch to a newer version in order to continue using it. As long as you keep your subscription paid up you can continue using the older version. But you choose to stick with an older version you need to accept that itāll get no updates. Basically itās the same as if you stuck with 22.0 and refused to update to 22.1 when it was released.
Totally - thanks for clarifying ! Iāll be much less stubborn about switching when I have less going on concurrently. Hypathetically, if I weāre to open a 2022 project in the 2024 version - is there anything I should be prepared for other than the chance that my aspect ratio may change? That might not even be an issue, just preparing for the worst.
There shouldnāt be any change, even to the aspect ratio of the model window (unless you have changed the arrangement of the model space (more or fewer toolbars or changed the width of the tray).
Wow cool! I was very concerned that if I didnāt even touch my toolbars, the cosmetic differences between sketchup versions alone would modify my aspect ratio. My only reasoning being that I accidentally just clicked my toolbar once (couldnāt visually see a difference) but my aspect ratio changed. Might as well just test this and answer my own concerns⦠thank you so much Dave for all your help, clarification, and patience! Itās very much appreciated! I really do love the SketchUp community and how invloved ALL the users seem to be.
You donāt have to uninstall SketchUp 2022 when you install 2024. In fact 2024 will install as a totally separate program. Major versions of SU always install separately instead of overwriting the previous version so you can take your time transitioning.
Youāre quite welcome.