As much as you may say that Sketchup Free will be developed and have the same functionality with SU Make 2017, as I cannot be on the web all the time (on an airline, on a boat in the middle of the ocean, slow connection, etc.) I will not be able to use Sketchup on those times. This restricts usage to only times when I have a decently quick internet connection. This unfortunately is a deal breaker for me. A shame rally since I have been using Make for 3 years now for hobby/personal work (making RC planes, 3d printing, House designs) and find it an amazingly simple product with a large user base that makes it easy to find out how to do things. Not to mention that we also have an extension and 3d warehouse that makes it simple for me to quickly find what I need. So, I will continue use of Make 2017 and barring the availability of a lower priced intro (offline capable) product, will look to migrate to an alternative program altogether.
Fortunately there really is no deal.
I think you may find it difficult to obtain a program having a lower price than $0.00, so I wish you the best of luck with your future migration to an alternative product!
Personally, I view a web-based version of Sketchup as quite an achievement. The progress of open standards and availability of new software tools, I would expect/dream that the client- and server-side parts might eventually be brought together in the future (something like Electron). This would allow one application to run on any platform and afford the use of custom plugins while still providing the benefits of a internet-connected application.
I’m willing to wait to see what might develop … until then, I support the team’s effort by using Pro.
I can image other things to do on these locations…
We are more restricted by the thought of not having internet than the actual lack of it, I think
FTR, we have a thread discussing this, but it auto-locked on us.
(Ask admin @Caroline if you wish to have it unlocked to post.)
btw, did I have said already that auto-locking threads is plain rubbish?
I cannot be stated too many times.
I’m wouldn’t mind paying for some version of SketchUp for the desktop (Make or otherwise). The problem is that for my hobby needs SketchUp Pro is far out of my budget. Some of the current issues with SketchUp Free are that it doesn’t work as smoothly, and doesn’t work with a 3dconnexion SpaceNavigator. Also I hate subscriptions services, unless they are very reasonable and include features I need or want. The current subscription for SketchUp Shop is costly, and does not provide any appealing features for me.
I would very much like to see a ‘hobbyist’ version of SketchUp desktop that costs around $75 to $90 (US). Unless there are dramatic improvements in SketchUp Free or Shop I would need to use Make until it no longer is supported. At that point I will need to evaluate the available options.
A SketchUp Make in the $100 - $200 price range is affordable for most people. I am a huge advocate for this direction if SketchUp and Trimble will take it. You are never going to do away with the need for a desktop version of the software, the web based thing is fun and gimmicky but not a serious platform for getting any real work done.
You will struggle to find something comparable for free, the closest thing I have found (that I also have) in terms of ease of use, and most importantly speed… is Rhino - However that is around £900. It looks more complicated than it is in reality, I have learnt it in only three months since starting my new job. One of the best things about it is that it has native support for SketchUp files (as long as you back-save them to 2014 for some reason).
After Rhino, the second best thing (in my opinion) is Modo, super powerful and quite quick, however that is more at around £1450.
However with Modo, as with Creative Cloud, you can choose a monthly subscription that you can get down to around £50. That takes it about equal to Creative Cloud in terms of cost. That’s equals to about 6 beers where I live so almost at hobby level
Blender is free but quite complex in terms of the interface. I have been trying to learn it for years, I sat down to finally get it over with and it took at least 8 months to be even semi-proficient. I have left it alone again now and using Rhino instead.
There are tons of other things in the middle, but generally even the Pro price of SketchUp is competitively priced. Unless you are on OSX, Make 17 should still work for many years to come, it’s hard to speculate what the impact of Apple moving away from Open GL will be, however given we are looking at a post 2020 timeline I would imagine the online version of SketchUp free (or the paid for online version) will have addressed many of the issues raised by folks over the last few months (plugins, offline use etc).
If you want to see a good Cloud demo, check out Octane Render. https://home.otoy.com/render/octane-render/overview/ From this main page navigate to ‘Cloud Demo’ in the top toolbar, and then choose ‘Octane 3 Demo’.
Buying a software license implies for most users a commercial usage, which would surely kill the Pro sales significantly… besides Make would be crippled down e.g. by not supporting extensions… you surely would not be happy with.
Form Z Free - Free
Form Z Jr - $495
Form-Z - $995
BricsCAD Shape - Free
MOI 3D - $295 Very similar to Rhino. Developer used to work on development of Rhino.
Yes I do enjoy Moi3D but I never went further than the trial since I already had Rhino.
Some great stuff coming out of it however, if I had not got Rhino via work it would have been a likely candidate for home!
free for commercial usage?
“form•Z free is a great way to start exploring the power of design with 3D solid modeling. This version has no restrictions for professional, academic, or home use.”
Also same file format as the 2 paid versions.
Same with Shape…
“BricsCAD Shape is free of charge to everyone, with no commercial usage restrictions.”
Agreed. I don’t own it either as I really don’t need it but it was so easy to use and a great bargain for it’s price.
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