Tag folders came out a while ago…
My point 5.
When overriding the tag structure of a viewport, one is cut off from any other changes to the saved tag state of the scene for that viewport. That is kind of the point, but not really. The override could be saved as just an override for the particular tag, or the particular tag folder that you hide or show. All the other tags visibility have not been altered, so its not necessary logical to say that their visibly state should also be decoupled from the scene.
It would be more powerful if only the altered tags visibilty state was affected. Then that scene could adhere to other changes to the visibilty state of the scene.
For example: You add a tag in sketchup, and turn it off for the scene that has overrides in Layout. Because the whole tag state is decoupled from the scene, you now also have to change the tag visibility for the viewport in Layout, so double work.
This would make the feature of overriding tags much more powerful, in my opinion, and much more predictable, in terms of what the viewport shows as the project develops, and new tags are added.
I just tried what you described Odd – and if I have understood you correctly – when I turn off a new tag in SketchUp, update the scene and save, in Layout the scene has tag overrides and the newly created tag is off.
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oh- you are right. This is cool (and I think this was not like this before). But changes to existing tags scene visibly that are not part of the actual override are still cut off from being updated.
I don’t follow…
well, I changed the visibility of a whole existing tag folder in a sketchup scene to test this, and that change did not carry over to the layout viewport that had overrides, even though the overrides was not about any of those tags.
ok – I see – that is annoying!
I believe if you override in LO and then make changes in SKP you’ll need to reset the view to get back to the scene settings - otherwise how is LO to know what you want from LO or from SKP?
But I’m out of office and can’t test. And generally only rarely override in LO because I try to keep my SKP and LO clean and in sync via scenes.
And until Odd raised the issue I hadn’t noticed anything as being an issue.
If the SketchUp model has been opened from Layout there is some live link – you make changes to the model and the viewport in Layout updates.
Surely the same could be true of tag state – you make changes, update the scene and save and the live link with Layout updates the Layout viewport.
I might have missed something…
#5 Layers that can be visible but set not to print ala AutoCAD.
I believe that this should be doable. When you update the viewport, new scene definitions are imported into Layout, each scene with a set of shown or hidden tags. You can see in the tags panel for the viewport which are hidden or not. But an override could be saved to the Layout viewport for just one tag, so individually saved as overrides per each tag, and then all the other tags adhere to the scene definition, also after an update.
From the interface of the tags panel in Layout there’s no way to tell if a tag is overridden or not, if its hidden it shows the empty eye symbol whether its its hidden in the scene or overridden in the viewport. Maybe one should have marked the individual tags that are overridden with the grey stripe that also tells apart other overrides for styles etc. Or maybe a separate column besides the eye for overrides in the tags pane in Layout.