thnx for the link, still wont work as trimble has decided my lic is no longer valid for 2017 2018 or 2020… I wonder how long it will take to hear anything from them.
Files are saved on the desktop. I’m new to the PC not to computers was working inhouse with Universal of their themparks last 5 years but due to covid I am not freelance again and having to upgrade my work system… but last WIN system I used was win2000 
as for the TM landscaping definitely agree this is just a test file I use to try things. Very much looking forward to using TM fully, I had it on my mac and it was ok but buggy lights didn’t really work and my old system couldn’t handle the load. from what I can see it should work much much better on the PC, that is if I can get it to work…