SketchUp in 2019: where great ideas get to work

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#314

Ok - that should be a big deal for shop users - it can be a bit more robust now they have a Pro subscription at 299.


#315

GSTUDIOS,
I think businesses will find this very useful. With well designed dynamic components you can enable less practiced modelers to knock out parts of the design process for you. Basically I see businesses with Pro users now getting a few Shop licenses as well and training new users to assist in the design process. I, for instance Z-lock most of my assets, since they typically shouldn’t be floating. I couldn’t share that with Make users before, but I can now with Shop. Not sure when they added this functionality, but it’s exciting to see it’s there now.

Web access is actually ideal for these “design assistant” style users. I just want them in and out of the model quickly, just doing basic tasks. Not having to have everyone install software and troubleshoot driver issues, have storage space enough, have sufficient power, etc is all a major boon for that kind of use case. This combined with the new training resources makes it super compelling to train a few new users on SketchUp within our company.

Very exciting!


#316

if this is true, then they may have found a way to run extensions on the web!, otherwise must have hardwired the DC script, even running a DC is great


#317

I’ve been fiddling in shop for about an hour trying to find a way to interact with Dynamic components in any way, unless I’m missing something I think they have jumped the gun saying shop can use and create them.
You can certainly add them, but I can’t modify them dynamically or see any way to create one.


#318

Link to plans via SU help

Doesn’t mention dynamic components.


#319

I understand this for businesses with multiple licenses. For businesses that only have 1 pro license though (solo practice architect), the new subscription model is bad. Once the subscription ends, you can’t edit the models & drawings anymore. So even after switching to FormZ for instance, you would still have to buy SketchUps license for several years until all the projects you did in SketchUp are finished construction.

So I really really hope the classic license will be here for many years as well. The different statements in this thread by Trimble Team members (‘phased out’ ‘no decision’ etc) really don’t help.


#320

That’s why they want a subscription model. Because guys like you and me stick to a simple philosophy: if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. But they want to keep a revenue stream coming. But that’s not our problem. Make a product. If it’s good, we’ll buy it. If it’s good enough, we’ll buy it again, if and when we see fit. As for me, there’s not going to be any “software subscriptions” in my life.


#321

Wow. Say you have 10,000 paid existing Pro subscribers at $200 each. That’s $2,000,000 worth of maintenance and upgrades… All for a dashed line?


#322

Mine works just fine …


#323

John, please think this statement through.

Why would I (we, Pro users) be looking for updates on the online versions?

  • I don’t use Free, for both licencing and practicality reasons (connectivity and lack of extension support) and it doesn’t have Layout.
  • I don’t use Shop because of practicality reasons (connectivity and lack of extensions support) and it doesn’t have Layout, plus I don’t support subscription based software.
  • I have a paid up licence for SU Pro, with active / valid maintenance and support, thus contractually you’re bound to provide such service if updates / fixes are done within the “snapshot of code period” you refer to.

So, by your own admission, updates were done to both Free and Shop, yet not passed on to your Pro customers even if they had valid maintenance and support? That doesn’t exactly create a trusting environment, now does it?


#324

I’ve made a wishlist for LO Extensions some time ago.

@JoeDrafter, I added two ideas from your list here too. Some of the ideas, like vector patterns, are hard to implement as extensions but would be very useful as native features. Some I had problems understanding but feel free to add them yourself with a short explanation!


#325

I’m pretty sure now that this must be an error.
Shop isn’t able to Use or Create Dynamic components.


#326

SketchUp Team,
Could you please let us know if this is an error or not? I was pretty excited about this change, I was planning on getting five of my coworkers a Shop license to basically use the move tool, rotate tool and interact with dynamic components to create 3D layouts.

Thank you -
Aaron Marr


#327

Goodmorning @Eneroth3 (and @jbacus), I didn’t want to add too much here because it’s not the right thread. I re-composed my list on your forum this morning and add some explainations. Thx for your interest.


#328

@aaron.marr,
can you just quote the phrase in this forum where you read that Shop version have DC?


#329

It’s posted several posts above.


#330

That’s odd. In that schema it says that in Shop You can use and create DCs, nothing about being able to edit then. Contrary to Pro an Studio where you can create and edit them. Not being able to use them? :wink:


#331

oh I see! So the question is: what “create” means?


#332

Well, actually I would be asking what Use means as well as Create.
A Dynamic component when used can be manipulated in ways that the creator has specified. For example you can scale a fence component along its length and it will add more pickets. But as far as I see when you add a dynamic component to a shop model it loses the dynamic attributes.


#333

Edit should be the use of the advanced dynamic components editor .in the past only available to pro users. use should be manipulating after it’s been created…