I recently downloaded the 2025 version of Layout and it appears they’ve changed some things and are not very forthcoming with information. At least not without doing some digging. I have attached a screenshot of my current issue. Little yellow caution symbols popping up everywhere. Hovering, clicking, and double clicking over the symbols reveals nothing. You would think if they suddenly introduced big yellow caution symbols at random they would at least give you a hint as to what they were for. Refreshing the model connection, purging, and a plethora of other usual fixes are not solving anything either. In addition, I don’t know if this problem is connected, but one of my viewing windows in the drawing is not refreshing either. Even after repeated attempts to relink and update model reference. Now it appears completely blank as you can see in the upper right hand corner of the screenshot.
That indicates the viewports need to be rendered.
No. It doesn’t. Clicking the Render button in the SketchUp Model panel while the viewport is selected or better, ticking the Auto box in the same window will render the viewports and get rid of the yellow triangle. This is nothing new in LayOut 20205. In fact that’s been around since LayOut was first released.
Interesting, 10+ years of using Layout and I’ve never seen those symbols. 1 day of using Layout 2025 and they pop up on numerous different pages at different times. I’ll try rendering the viewing window when I get back to the office and see if that does the trick.
I don’t know why the Auto check box is unticked for you. By default that is ticked unless you untick it. There are some cases in which you might want Auto Render turned off while your’re working so you can limit rendering to just the viewport(s) you need to update. This is useful if you are going back and forth between LayOut and SketchUp to update a one or a few scenes but don’t want LayOut to update all of the viewports each time you come back to it.
That makes sense. That will be why they suddenly started popping up. I unchecked for some reason a bit ago. That should fix the problem. Thanks.
The change in 2025 is that the auto render doesn’t make you wait to render all of the pages before you can do more work. That symbol stays there until the current page has been rendered. You can carry on doing other things while you wait.
@trent may know why it isn’t in the release notes, or if it is in there, which entry covers this.
I was curious about this, so did some tests.
One thing I learned is that the Auto checkbox in any viewport also toggles the settings, General, auto render option, and it affects all viewports in any document you look at. That means an innocence click of that box in any document could leave you with puzzling symbols, and no real way to tell whether the option is on by default in a fresh LayOut install.
I tested what happens when you first run LayOut 2025, if there are no previous versions of LayOut. The auto render option defaults to on.
Also tested what happens if you have any previous version of LayOut, where you had turned that off. I tried both the case where I had previously used 2024, and turned it off, and I tried 2018, with it turned off. In both cases 2025 then had that option turned off.
I did the same test for 2024, 2023, and 2022. In all cases the auto render option is on my default, if there is no previous version of LayOut that had it turned off.
That’s always been the case as I remember even from LO3.
That’s my experience and, again, it’s always been that way.
It seems to be a document setup sort of thing instead of a Preferences thing. When I get files from other users who have unticked the Auto Render box, it will show as unticked on my machine although in all of my templates and in all of my LayOut projects Auto Render is turned on.
I think this is a wonderful change!
Strange, I tested that. A 2022 document saved after unchecking the auto render box, then opened in 2025, where auto render was turned on, comes in with the checkbox checked. Reopening the file in 2022 still has the box unchecked.
Strange indeed. I’ve used this feature for years when checking out files from other users when they complain that their viewports aren’t updating. Looking at the state of that tick box has been my first step followed by checking to see what properties have been overridden and then what reference the viewports are from.
Just happened again. This time, the auto box is checked and was checked previously. I was working with adjusting the pattern fill in a shape and looked over and the orange triangle popped up. After un-checking and then re-checking the box it refreshed and fixed itself. All I know is that I’m doing everything the same as I’ve always done it but now the orange triangle keeps popping up.
I can reproduce that effect: I had Auto Render off when I opened the file, and had 2 viewports, I had to click the Render button for all.
It’s a bit of a weird setting - it writes it to disk on close of the app. Unlike other things in the SketchUp Model panel, this is an app setting, not a document setting. Once you get it all updated, it should work as expected.
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