Can you point out what is in your screenshot that shows you are not able to renew your maintenance and support? You get 30 days after the renewal date to be able to renew at $120, and you are still within that grace period for another three weeks.
That would be great, but doubt Trimble would go for it
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Any of the paid for versions of SketchUp donāt just give you a few more features that are not there in Make, they also give you a license to earn income from your use of SketchUp. The Make 2017 and Pro 2017 are the same application, the only difference is that with Pro you have entered a serial number, and then can use LayOut and Style Builder, use the extra importers and exporters, and also charge people to do SketchUp work for them.
If you installed Make 2017 now, you would get a 30 day trial of Pro 2017. After that you will see a message asking you to agree to only use SketchUp for personal, non-commercial work. If you agree to that, SketchUp will continue to work permanently, without you paying anything for it.
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I can export to .dwg and other file types with 17 make? I donāt recall being able to. Seems like more āfeaturesā to me.
Thatās included in the extra importers and exporters I mentioned. Even if those were in Make, you still would not be licensed to earn income from SketchUp, if you didnāt have at least a Shop subscription.
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Thanks,
But, my understanding is free Sketchup wonāt be supported or updated. Iām considering Sketchup Shop, still thatās a confusing choice. Sketchup mentions itās usefulness for CNC machines. I create CNC instructions for automated machining. Does āshopā create a file downloadable to mach9ine tools in code, ready to run the servos?
Honestly, someone nor technically elite should be responsible for describing each version. Tremble is scaring and upsetting folks with their omissions aobut future availability.
But thanks for your response.
Larry Maloney
I think Tremble would be a cooler name for the company, though wouldnāt convey a confident attitude.
The desktop Make 2017 isnāt due to be updated, but the Free web version is constantly being updated.
What Shop has that is useful for CNC machines is that when you export as 3D DWG or DXF, with Faces disabled, you end up with true curves. Apparently CNC machines like those more than having a lot of line segments. The Free version only saves SketchUp files or exports STL and Collada. STL is fine for 3D printing, but would still be line segments, and wouldnāt be as smooth as a 3D DWG or DXF.
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OK. You are right- I solved and the payment was accepted. Iām sorry for the misunderstanding
Thanks, Colin. āReal curvesā ā I think you are referring to ācircular interpolation.ā Not exactly real curves, but many more strait line segments to create a curve. When a machine tool cuts a circle itās a zillion strait lines. The X and Y coordinates are continually updating. In Sketchup, there are fewer strait lines making the circle, and you can actually see the segments ā too course for machine tool control. so a smooth cut would not be possible. Anyway, I now understand. Iāll try the free web version, and if my tools arenāt missing, Iāll eventually invest in the āshopā version.
Again,
Thanks.
I may not have the right term, but I meant real curves. For the CNC machine it becomes one instruction, and not dozens of line segments to seem like one curve.
Thatās what Iām trying to clarify. Machine tools are set up based on the Cartesian Coordinate System. For example, X, Y, and Z axis. Each is driven by a ball screw in a linear direction (strait,) powered by a servo, or lower-grade stepper motor. None cut in circles. Any two axis move along a programmed circular arc in nano-like STRAIT LINE movements for a smooth circular result. The cut could be made using the strait lines generated when Sketchup creates a circle, but once cut out using a machine tool the flat (strait) lines would be obvious. Moving both axis simultaneously in minute strait lines cuts a more presentable circle. Itās the same basic technique of drawing strait lines, except circular interpolation is much more finite.
I hope that makes sense.
It may be your customers should be known as āTremblers.ā
I think there is free extension to export as DXF. It is technically possible to develop extension to export in different file format
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I donāt need any help. I explained how machine tools cut an arc with strait lines.
Yeah, I know this. Iāve been a SU paid user since v3. Make used to be able to import dwg but you ALWAYS had to be a pro user to have the āfeatureā to export it. This was my point.
I never said or eluded that one had the right āearn income from SketchUpā Make. Not sure where you got this.
You picked up on an answer I was giving to Slider, I was repeating something I had already said, and not answering you in particular.
It does sound like you know a lot more about CNC than most people, definitely more than me. I had one support case where the SketchUp userās client, who ran a CNC machine, refused to take SketchUp exports because of the sound the machine made, as it cut lots of line segments. Exporting so that all arcs and circles were effectively made up of an infinite number of segments made the machine run quieter, and he was happy again.
I donāt know the mechanics of why line segments are louder on some machines, compared to having a perfect curve.
Regarding true curves vs. the segmented approximations used in SketchUp geometry: SketchUp understands arcs and circles as parts of geometry, in addition to their segmented approximation. If an arc or circle has not been exploded or otherwise significantly modified, the Entities window will show that a selected arc or circle is in fact an āArcā or a āCircleā.
When doing a 3D export of DWG or DXF format, those arcs or circles will be exactly represented in the exported data. The approximated segments seen in SketchUp are NOT exported. In other words, a CNC machine will use the full resolution of its X-Y axis stepper motors, ball screw drives, etc. to incrementally cut the arc or the circle to the highest resolution possible with the CNC deviceās stepper motors (say one thousandth of an inch per setup, or whatever). The resulting cut will NOT have the flat straight segments that you see in SketchUp. It will be as smooth as the CNC device can physically make it.
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