Non-Standard Views

From time to time I have scenes that don’t follow one of the standard views (top/front/right/etc). When I added a scene to Layout 2019 it would automatically come in with the same view as Sketchup which was great for non-standard views. With Layout 2020 that doesn’t happen anymore and is causing some issues when I’m trying to properly represent my scenes in Layout. If there an option somewhere that I might have disabled that makes Layout default to the Sketchup view or was that ability deleted with 2020?

I still create scenes in SketchUp and make my LayOur views refer to those.

I do create all my scenes in Sketchup, I’m just creating the viewports in Layout.

I discovered the “problem” though:

In Layout 2019, you could zoom in and out inside of the viewport and it wouldn’t override the actual view. If you copied a viewport that was a “Top” view and selected a different scene that was setup in Sketchup as “Front”, it would change from “Top” to “Front” even though you had messed with the zoom in the original viewport.

In Layout 2020, zooming in and out basically “breaks” the viewport. Now if you want the viewport to reflect the Sketchup drawing, you have to click on it and “Reset” the camera.

From my point of view this is a step backwards from 2019 to 2020 as zooming shouldn’t create a view override but I’m guessing that there must have been some reason for the change. Now that I know what to look for, I’ll just have to remember to “reset” my cameras when necessary.

I haven’t had that problem. I can still zoom without breaking the link with the model.

Maybe I misspoke but it doesn’t completely break the link with the model. If I change something, add a dimension, etc, inside Sketchup, then save and updated the model reference inside Layout, all the changes are there. What is “broken” is the link back to the model view. In 2019 zooming didn’t “break” the link between the Sketchup view and the layout view but in 2020 it does. Below are the same example in 2019 & 2020:

The scene in Sketchup is “Top” standard view. In layout, I zoom in and out but don’t change the standard view. Now I go back to Sketchup, change to “Front” standard view, save and update model reference.

2019: The viewport switches to the “Front” standard view just like the scene in Sketchup.

2020: The viewport stays on “Top”.

I completely understand creating the Layout view override if you change the standard view or even orbit inside the viewport, but zooming in and out shouldn’t create a view override in my opinion.

If I understand you correctly why are you zooming

in Layout?

Why do you want to do that? You can set the viewport scaling on the LayOut page without entering into the model view.

My Sketchup drawings typically contain multiple rooms. Rather than making a floor plan view scene for every room, I dimension all of the rooms in one scene. Once I’m in Layout I will zoom in on the specific room per page. There are also times where I’ll have a large detail that I will show in full on one page but have zoomed in sections on another page.

We don’t scale our drawings as they are for production purposes plus everything gets printed on legal sized paper. Below are some examples of what I’m referring to above. The red circles on the overall plan view indicate the different “rooms” on this particular job.

If you change the standard view in SketchUp and then save, you basically update the ‘Last saved View’ which older LayOut versions used upon inserting the SketchUp reference, but also when updating. With the new version, it is only used upon the first insert, I believe. Unless you insert it again.

not sure, there was something changed, though

Best practice is to actually create scenes in SketchUp, (could be a standard view), not to save that view particular, but to ‘save the bounds’ of what you are seeing.

I would first make a LayOut view of your entire plan, drag its boundaries so that it is to a large enough scale, check the “preserve scale on resize” box and then drag the boundaries to crop the view to focus on a room. Then make a copy of the view, and drag the boundaries to the next room etc. No need to enter the SketchUp view to zoom.