I’m all for improvements to Layout – and I guess I’m not seeing it – but for me SketchUp is 3D and CAD is CAD.
Layout is 2D and I believe that improvements to Layout should be driven from what’s best for working in 2D and not necessarily to make it more SketchUp or CAD-like.
If there is an improvement that borrows from SketchUp or CAD that makes Layout better then great.
School day today! Thanks for that, but it also reinforces my point that many action aren’t intuitive e.g. I didn’t know and would be unlikely to realise this trick.
Not if “Auto Join Lines” is active in the context menu. 
Amazingly timely discussion to have randomly come across. Just got back from Basecamp 2024 in Las Vegas. Attended Nick Sanders session and am totally converted. As a designer who “just” uses SU for concept design, I was about to hand off the 3D file to an architect of record to do the CDs in Autocad. Now I am scrambling to learn LO asap as I see this hand-off as a waste and know I will be hand-holding more than I need to. Question: Can anyone recommend (emergency) LO/Construction doc training in NYC/Dutchess county area? Or is there a LO/SU architect among you looking for a fun side job? 6,000SF house for a very nice client.
Are you sure?
Nope 
As I say school day, complete with school boy errors…
Did you buy a copy of his book?
Yes, on its way tomorrow from Amazon. And on the plane home from LV I bought the kindle version of Sketchup to Layout: The Beginner’s Guide to Sketchup Pro and Layout by Nick’s co-author. Been glued to it since yesterday. I’ve never used LO before. Feeling kinda dumb for not learning
I don’t know about emergency training but we are here to help.
But as you can see from this thread and maybe from other threads – Layout generates a lot of discussion!
I know there are some Nick Sonder fans out here. Maybe one of them is able to do some online sessions with you?
More chanche of that than finding a tutor in your area I’d say…
Thank you, Paul. What is involved in getting training from you? Asynchronous training via videos? Live Zoom calls? Where can I learn more?
A lot!
I will go back to the Trim command.
Draw a line in sketchup that crosses a lot of other lines and that line will break them all.
Use eraser tool and delete all loose ends.
Try that in Layout.
Why would the system be different?
Thank you for asking!
But I wasn’t offering training from me – I don’t have the qualities for being a trainer.
Generally “we” – on the forum – are here to help with issues / questions.
There are others on the forum who would be better trainers than I could be…
Indeed, yes - a trim tool like that would be super.
Hi. If Paul can help you, great- I sent you a PM just there.
It’s best to start a new post for your search.
I think the category “commercial and collaborative work” would suit best…
here I repeat a task I tried the other day, to extend the vertices in a rectangle until it meets a line. Must admit I ALWAYS avoid drawing things in Layout, but still I went ahead with some Sketchup thinking, some reference locking, so just move each vertices, with direction locked. That does not work at all.
I then come to my senses, and try to instead make new extending lines, that works a bit better, but still, strange inferences all over the place.
I guess the right approach would have been to not try to alter the existing geometry, but rather draw new geometry and delete the old.
That they just will not leverage the drawing concepts of sketchup is really something I dont understand. And all this is I guess because they will not make the move tool, because doubleclicking into the geometry (Why is that needed) then hovering over a line means “Move”, so then you cannot have inference locking.
To be fair I did find a way:
but thats just it, no leverage of sketchup knowledge, and planning for every single move, instead of the sketchup way where there’s many ways to the same goal.
Deleted - Misunderstood the task 
You explained it nicely.
There are so many of these things that are so easy to do with Sketchup and you really have to reshape your brain to do in Layout. Then when you find how to do them in Layout, you ask yourself why would one do it that way.
The sheer simplicity of Sketchup… Why didn’t they adopt the same base workflow if they were developing Layout exclusively for Sketchup users in the first place?
Odd…
This is in Layout 2024 – hit the down arrow key to get the magenta inference.
And…
I concur that LO and SU should adopt as much similarity in workflow and commands as possible with the exception that Layout is limited to 2D. Being that SU seems more evolved, LO should probably adopt the SU way when possible.
