Insane Price Increase

[kevincotterell9]

jmichas, let us know how you get on finding a better priced program to do what Sketchup does.

[richwatkinson]

It seems to me that there could be an intermediate level license between the hobbled web version and the full commercial version. What I would like to see is a desktop app version that handles extensions but does not include Layout or Style Builder.

I bought the Pro version to produce construction docs for a couple of whole house renos. However, now I’m back to hobby level woodworking and minor projects that don’t require Layout - BUT I’m hooked on the brilliant extensions like OpenCutList and others.

Having seen all the issues reported with 2023, I’ve allowed my subscription to expire and have gone back to my 2021 classic license.

[tweenulzeven]

@clearplanmodeling

And, if I may be so bold as to ask yet another improvement: in model info, make the Component > hide / fade rest of model persistent as part of a template. It doesn’t take long to set it the way I want it, but 10-15 seconds x’s a thousand new windows opened every year adds up

Why don’t you make your own templates with all your preferences?

[clearplanmodeling]

well, I’ll be. I thought I’d tried that before and it wasn’t something saved in the template file. Just tried again and lo and behold, it works.

Much appreciated!

[francisquitof]

@clearplanmodeling

make the Component > hide / fade rest of model persistent as part of a template.

You can create a shortcut for that, I have shortcuts for hide/show rest of the model, hide/show similar components, and show/hide hidden geometry and edges.

[PetervB]

I would be pleased with a version without layout. Its useles as it is. Style builder and outliner same. Dynamic oomponents? Could domwithout. But other side Word also has 90% options i never touched in 25 years.

[rtches]

@PetervB

outliner same.

This is very useful to organize your model

[rod2]

Compared to other software on the market (here’s looking at you $10k (!!!) AUD archiCAD) Sketchup is still insanely great value. Just saying.

[PetervB]

Its no use to me… thats all.

[greg_francis]

I would love to see the desktop free viewer or a low-priced desktop version have the dimensioning tools. We have people that don’t do anything in SketchUp Pro other than create Revit models, which requires the dimension tools. Let’s blow a license on someone that uses SketchUp Pro only for building Revit models. Thanks Trimble. smh.

[francisquitof]

Rhino license costs $995, and renewal $595, I’ve checked and there aren’t discounts or the possibility to pay for more than 1 year. If you mean that if you get a license and never upgrade it anymore, then it would be cheaper from the 4th year and beyond. Imagine skp selling perpetual licenses for 900 bucks, people would go crazy.

[numerobis]

@francisquitof

the possibility to pay for more than 1 year.

The release cycle for Rhino now seems to be ~2.5-3 years (used to be 5-6 years 10 years ago…). So this is ~$333/year (incl. all service releases) if you buy it for the first time and ~$200/year for the following releases - for a perpetual licence and not for rent. (and you get access to a WIP program for the next version)

[wataru.kannuzuki]

@francisquitof

Imagine skp selling perpetual licenses for 900 bucks, people would go crazy.

The perpetual license used to be about 795USD. They also charged 10 for the Viewer in the App Store.

[3DxJFD]

The SU Viewer for HoloLens used to cost around $1,500 (if I recall correctly). Now there are a few Viewers included with SU Pro.

[ateliernab]

oh yeah, I remember when I was a kid and a baguette was less than 10francs, time flies.

[SketchUp3D_de]

@PetervB

I would be pleased with a version without layout. Its useles as it is. Style builder and outliner same. Dynamic oomponents? Could domwithout. But other side Word also has 90% options i never touched in 25 years.

the value is obviously the main functionality, i.e. the 3D modeling plus the extension interface and not the additional gimmicks… cherry pickin’ the main functionality ‘only’ or an uncontrollable private/hobby use does not substantiate a price reduction.

[PetervB]

I tend to disagree. Layout has been a unusable and neglected liability since 2020. And cherrypicking? No, just putting the finger on a number of items i simply can do without, or finding the functionality close to bullshit.
Sketchup has loads of potential. I use it frequently. perpetual 2020. For the simple reason nothing really has bettered skp since then. The lock-in from subscriptions encloses improvement. Which is imho completely lacking. Maybe because no-one is having any idea where skp should be heading. For now its a load of unanswered questions, no point on any horizon. All kinds of hapless extra’s outside of skp popping up, the why eludes me.
Skp is treated like a butterfly: flying directionless round with no purpose but eating the food of us subscribers. I am afraid it will die somehow, for lack of development.

[PaulMcAlenan]

@PetervB

Layout has been a unusable and neglected liability since 2020

For you and others Layout is unusable but for me and many others it is usuable and dare I say it… really great to use.

Question is why…?

[rkleins]

@PetervB

I am afraid it will die somehow, for lack of development.

What are you afraid of?

Your writings make me believe you would be delighted if it died!

I use Sketchup Pro and Layout professionally. For me (interior Design) it does a fabulous job. I can not imagine antything could be more productive. It’s a moneymaker.

[francisquitof]

The permanent license was $575