How do I show instances of components in Shop?

Don’t know if it will help you, but I did a cleaned up copy of the outer walls plan view, and pushpulled it up to 8’.

Copied one opening, and was able to pushpull it through the wall, at right hand end in the saved view

See if you can mark out where the doorway and window holes need to go by measurement of where the windows and doors are relative to the floor plan, and pushpull the openings for them.

Tidy up or redraw any distorted window or door components, and place them in position from the component browser.

Might help you restart in a cleaner set of walls.

I tried fixing some of the misplaced windows and doors, and did a couple, then stopped as it is late here, in UK.

Hope it might help you some.

Upper floorJWM.skp (339.8 KB)

Thanks very much. Clearly I thought I remembered more than I did from 3 years ago. I’ll print out and study what you’ve written here. You’re probably right, starting again “clean” will ultimately take less time, with the info I now have.
FWIW, the reason I didn’t start with all the walls is I didn’t actually have many of the room dimensions. I was using SU to help me figure out “mystery areas” that the realtor hadn’t measured-- a big closet-like alcove in one bedroom, any of the closets, either of the bathrooms, short entryways into rooms, etc. And as I said, I’ve never seen this house. I was guessing by putting in walls, then lowering view and comparing it with photographs.

This is amazing. Thank you very much, you’ve saved me a ton of trouble!

Am I understanding correctly, that I should cut the openings first, then place any door and window components where I put the holes? I might actually save myself time by simply cutting holes and not worrying about components, since the main use of this model will be to try to see what furnishings we can use and where.
I can attempt to measure out where windows and doors are, but as you can see, the floorplan is just a tax map, with nothing but the footprint of outer walls. I did a lot of guesswork about actual placement of doors and windows, as well as door and window size, based on looking at photos. I had a few basic measurements of room sizes, for instance dining room 10’3"wide, 11’6"long-- but since there is no wall where the dining room ends at either the kitchen or “entry foyer”, it’s all really guesswork, isn’t it?

See if you can mark out where the doorway and window holes need to go by measurement of where the windows and doors are relative to the floor plan, and pushpull the openings for them.

Tidy up or redraw any distorted window or door components, and place them in position from the

The red/green plane of the component’s axes determine the way it orients when inserted and where the hole cutting occurs.
Dave, could you be a bit more specific about the door issue? I have that component highlighted, and the only properties I seem to be able to change are “glue to”. I “glued to” vertical, based on assuming a door is vertical. Should I “glue to horizontal” instead

I’m not sure why you made a component for a wall slab
Exactly. I did not intend to make a component for a wall slab. Obviously, a “group” for a simple wall slab is plenty of organization; I couldn’t figure out how to undo that, or even figure out which wall slab it was.

It wouldn’t hurt if you spend some time going through the Fundamentals at too.
Before sending this to you I made it through lessons 1 thru 9, trying to understand how what I was seeing in the lessons corresponded to Shop, which often it doesn’t. I’m trying not to get defensive here, but if there had been documentation that corresponded with Shop, which I had already (foolishly) spent money on, and that Trimble would not refund, I would not have had to waste so much time-- mine and everyone else’s. I did the best I could with what Trimble/SU provided.

Since the windows, even if they have hole-cutting properties set, won’t cut through both faces, it would likely be easiest to cut the holes before adding the doors and windows.

Yes. If they don’t really offer much value, you could omit them and just use the openings.

It sounds like it is guesswork. Even those dimensions that you have are probably not precise. I might consider drawing rectangles to the sizes of the rooms and not even bother pulling up walls. Imagine working in a large empty warehouse and putting tape on the floor to indicate where walls are. Eyeball where the doors and windows are and then use that as a guide for placing your furniture and creating a shopping list for more. :slight_smile:

thanks but no thanks.
I just spent 3 hours working in parallel projection, redrawing the entire thing, doing the walls as you suggested previously-- only to discover that the guidelines were on the tops of the outer walls, not on the ground. So everything was drawn 8’ up.
As I said over a week ago, if I could have hired someone to draw me the floor plan-- trust me, that’s what I would have done. This is ridiculous. I have no desire to become an architect, or a designer. I’m a painter, for gods sake. We are going to need to move some walls to make this house work for us, but at this point, I’m done. What a total waste of time and money. It is NOT user friendly software, and I’m pretty software- and web- savvy.

And if I could simply get my money back, I would be very happy. (Well, not THAT happy since I’ve now put 40+ hours into this useless project, but at least I wouldn’t feel so totally ripped off.) Any idea how I go about getting my money back?

From what you’re telling me, I might as well just do this with a pencil on grid paper, and move little rectangles of paper around. That’s what I did for an apartment 25 years ago. Somehow I thought this was an improvement. Ha.

I’m sorry you feel that way. I can understand your frustration but you’ve not taken the time to learn the basics of using the software. SketchUp is more than capable of doing what you need but like any tool, you need to learn to use it properly. I tried to help but to be honest, I regret getting involved. I’ll wish you good luck and step out of this conversation.

That’s not at all what I was telling you.

Good night.