Having it both ways

I can’t find anything like that or anything called License Manager

There are links to the License Manager in the various emails sent as part of your license upgrades and M&S renewals. For reference, it is here:-

A google search for ‘sketchup license manager’ would take you to the same page… :wink:

I am totally baffled by the whole licensing changes.It all looks like smoke and mirrors to me and I can’t escape the feeling that those on a Classic license are being held to ransom.It seems to me that we are being offered features most of us don’t need and been asked to pay a huge increase. I always thought that the Classic license I bought enabled me to load onto my desktop and my laptop. When my hard drive dissolved in a previous version I was able to re-load it onto my computer. Now if I understand it correctly the 2020 version cannot be reloaded onto another computer, laptop or otherwise. Is that right? Currently I keep the drawings I have done on the version they were created on. What happens when I am on subscription? If I stop my subscription and need to get into a drawing that I did previously,does that mean I can’t access it or make changes to it? Also does the 2020 version support stop at the end of the maintenance contract? If anything should go wrong (I haven’t a clue what that may be) is that it?
Clearly Trimble have decided that the new model will benefit them and the certainty of alienating their loyal Classic User base is going to be offset by the extra fees they see they will get on a subscription model. I think they are missing the point that many of us, the users and the developers have invested huge amounts of time learning and/or improving the software. The cost to us of changing and learning something new is going to be huge. I wouldn’t be surprised if the developers of the extensions lose interest. It looks like a hostage situation to me. Apart from all of this, I find it extremely sad that the extraordinary community’s clear views on this forum have been largely dismissed. My understanding is the message is clear - there are a significant number of Classic users who don’t want it. If the return isn’t enough for Trimble, why not increase the perpetual license? I for one would be happier paying and extra 50% or so if I could keep the current system of ownership. Along with many others I don’t want all the other bells and whistles, I won’t use them and I don’t want o pay more than double and more than anything else I don’t like the idea of being hostage to continue paying for software in case I need to get back to work I created with it years previously. All my own work - not theirs!

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You can install and activate your current active version on a new hard drive or computer. If only the hard drive had failed, adding the license back in to the reinstalled SketchUp shouldn’t count as a new activation, because the license is tied to the MAC address and not the Disk ID.

If you had multiple failures of logic board over the years, to the point that it seems as if you have already installed SketchUp on several computers, you would email me, and I would help to fix that.

Although the plan states that nobody will be able to buy SketchUp 2021 as a new classic license, anyone still under maintenance and support when 2021 comes out will get that version as a permanent license. I believe that will be your situation. For others who are not under support when 2021 is released, their existing 2020, or 2019, etc, will continue to be a permanent license, and the program will still work after 2021 and later versions are out.

For the problem where you have given subscription a try, and you have some number of 2022 format files on your drive, then you stop subscribing, you would either down save the files before stopping your subscription, use a trial version of 2022 to do that, or for Windows users you could use the Open Newer Version extension to convert the files.

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Thank you for your reply.

Thanks. I guess I expected it would be associated with my account or SketchUp application.

Doesn’t say I can’t renew the license before November 4, though my renewal date is November 25.

Says that if I buy a subscription I can use the current version in perpetuity. Doesn’t say what happens if I don’t.

Have any of you tried BricsCAD? In videos, it looks pretty good for architecture.

“… Sorted out all the annoyances, especially those in Layout”.

Yes, I agree, and I suspect those “annoyances” with Layout are really much MORE than simple annoyances to many of us Pro users!
So, Trimble, take all this new subscription $, and please, finally, FIX Layout! Fix this long standing imbalance between the performance level of SU & LO, and give this critical component of the Pro package some much needed attention!
Please …

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@ $1400.00 a year it’s hardly a comparable.

Hi

I use BricsCAD and it is basically AutoCAD. It looks the same and pretty much works the same.

I only use it for processing DWGs for importing into Sketchup.

I find it as clunky to use as AutoCAD and no where near as intuitive to use as Sketchup. I used to use AutoCAD all the time for work going back 20 years. I’ve always thought that AutoCAD started as a 2D package which has just been added to and added to, making it very complex. The same is true for BricsCAD. Even trying to change the menu bar is overly painful and complicated.

Also, I have to pay Bricsys, (the owners of BricsCAD), approximately £600 a year for the license, and I only have the basic pro version.

Mike

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How does “$1400.00” relate to @NewThinking2 comment? Yes the Classic support does end, except when you pay $120 a year for maintenance–which is no longer possible to do. So it’s trading $120 a year for $299 a year. Except in the case of Classic, you could pay nothing and still retain the license for the version you have.
This forum is free.

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It doesn’t it relates to the comment about Bricscad.

With BricsCAD You have a REAL CHOICE - buy or rent!
https://www.bricsys.com/estore/
BricsCAD Pro is a 1105 USD Perpetual
SketchUP push-pull is a joke compared to BricsCAD push-pull - I can select all the filets on different parts and change them with push-pull at once - it works on curve surfaces and on multiple parts. You get real curves, real dimensions - associative, sections with hatches, detail views, parametric 2d and 3d, industry standart dwg and dxf and much, much more. There is no comparison. But how do You change the menu bar in Windows SketchUP?!

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you never answered the question. Who owns the forum?

Why do you want to know who owns the forum?

It’s a subscription, they don’t own it :slight_smile:

Why not?

Here is a link to the terms of service for this forum. You can also read the FAQ and other relevant areas where you will find very clear answers to your questions.

https://forums.sketchup.com/tos

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It seems like a load of legal jargon. Does trimble owe www.sketchup.com or not?

Well thinking about it simplistically…

I would imagine SketchUp own the domain www.sketchup.com and because Trimble own SketchUp then I guess ultimately Trimble own the domain.

Some entity must pay for the hosting and the forum package. I can only assume it’s SketchUp (and ultimately Trimble)

:man_shrugging:

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