You can compare this forum with a gas station along a grand highway or interstate. Many come here to ask for directions or to refuel, others come here just to do their needs. This thread could very well be just the drain of the public urinal.
That is never a good thing, business-wise, it is just another tool. How many tools do you have in your shed?
D comes after C, so to speak, you might argue that SketchUp was finished for designing and communicating 3Deas with version 6 (@last Software), for sharing stuff and location with version 8 (Google) and now are trying to get prepared for the next generation of users.
If you look at how many other tools Trimble has, I would say that SketchUp is the tool most fit for designers, all the others are more ‘engineering tools’.
While SketchUp could be used in the whole lifecycle of a building, from initial concept to maintenance, some tools are just better fit for the job. (Compare Medeek tools with Tekla or 3Dskeng with Stabiplan, there are countless other examples, off course)
some roadsigns would be nice…to see where it is heading.
Though I didn’t flag it, I’m glad somebody did. The obvious insubordination and bitterness (justified as some “sense of humour”) expressed by disrespecting the company and those who remain faithful… wasn’t funny in the least. TrEmble or TrUmble or other derivatives are only meant to slight as defamation and a repetitive use that only reveals just how ineffective it is for gaining support from those who “might” agree but won’t side with the sour negativity. It got old the second time. The anti-Trimble crusade went over the top and glad that some others agree. Good.
Absolutely. Someone had published there that they can loose 60% customers in the move from classic licence to subscription. This is why they don’t care about their customers. But this is not a problem when you integrate the idea.
This is the right thing to do. I have heard that Rhino 7 will offer methods to draw on/from faces as SketchUp. Blender is offering SketchUp like more experience since the 2.9 new version under development.
With perpetual SketchUp licence during one or two years, it is possible to make the move. Into the trap of the subscription, it is more difficult.
@duanekemp
ah… now we get to the root of it all: authority. so, here we go… Trimble as a company must have “authority” over it’s users/clients/customers is that it ??? Well well, the mask falls.
As a business owner, I certainly do NOT have that attitude towards my clients. I am there to give a service based on a pre-agreed contract. If I were to radically and unilaterally change that contract, I’d expect my clients to be angry and for some or all of them to discontinue working with me.
To get back to the point on “insubordination”, when a company thinks that it must have “authority” and expects then “obedience” from it’s clients/customers we enter a very very worrying dimension… I hope you fully understand what you are saying here ?
Blender is a an interesting challenger, because recent developments show more simplicity to UI and more UI-like SketchUp.
I am not engaged in open-source software, I always paid my licence, but I do not accept forced sell software by subscription that is agains freedom.
But into this situation, I have to consider open source.
It was the Trimble policy that led me to learn other software, and in a way, I am very grateful.
…extraordinary isn’t it to read this kind of idea… !
I wonder how many users would appreciate being treated as so blatantly told to “put up, or shut up”, because this is in effect what this means !
Blender is an attractive piece of software but until the various clever add-on developers get to a point where you can extract the 3D information and present in 2D as easily as (I can) in Layout, then Blender is a non starter.
Exactly. We all understand that there are those who are not happy with the current model. Though, “childish” is a good word for it, this type of rudeness and lack of respect this way does “jar” too much.
…yeh, it would appear so… I just can’t get over the fact that any company would seriously risk alienating so many users as many of us have been around for years and were, I stress were, big fans that evangelised about sketchup… why not reach out to us & work WITH us ? I know, someone made the calculation that they can afford to, but still, just seems so off. & as to the whole “Authority” thing, it just beggars belief !
This is not important, and this is not insult. During last years, have you seen people complaining like that. I think it is something new, and it must question Trimble instead of ban it…
It is going to change. There is projects. The start is the new version under development 2.9 and third party add-ons.
Better than 300$ per year, and with cool licence (you don’t loose it if you decide not to pay an update, but the next one. Updates are 4/5 years cycle).
Childish ? you might be right, as in playful. But heh… each to his/her own.
What is much more disturbing is your assertion about “authority”.
Let me ask you, as a client/customer or user of any product, do you see yourself as subservient to the product or company ?
Does that even sound like an acceptable relationship ?
The company has made its decision and this is the new model. They have that authority to do so… as it’s theirs to do so. If you don’t like it, I can understand that and of course, expressing your position clearly is justifiable. But, if I like using electricity in my home, I have to pay my bills… otherwise the power company has the authority to turn it off. Likewise, Trimble has a new model and what is fortunate is, that if you don’t like it, you don’t HAVE to submit to it. You can elect to use other software as you continuously are suggesting. There are others, like myself, who saw this coming and “choose” to accept it. But, I don’t believe at all that Trimble is completely out of touch with it’s customer base, instead, it is moving forward with a model that is competitive and offers users options. I choose to continue with SketchUp because I love it. And if that means using it tomorrow with a payment system that is different than yesterday, so be it.
