SketchUp Vs Revit - IFC Comparison

:person_fencing:SketchUp vs Revit

Many people ask me about SketchUp’s capability to work within BIM environments, so I decided to create this video in which I compare two nearly identical models, one created in Revit and the other in SketchUp, both exported to IFC format. I also submitted both models to the buildingSMART International validation service.

The video is in Spanish. Hopefully, YouTube will provide accurate subtitles or voice dubbing. (Still processing English audio at this moment…)

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Thanks for this. I’ve been studying the comparison for a long time. Autodesk have an iron grip on the construction industry in Ireland where I’m from- It’s Revit all the way in both college and drawing offices. I couldn’t get an English translation in YT, so I did got this from the video transcript and Deepl

People often ask me if it’s
possible to work in a
BIM environment with SketchUp, and they always
refer to Revit. So, what
I’ve done is create two simple models,
one in Revit and the other in
SketchUp. I’ve tried to make them more or
less the same. You’ll see that they’re not exactly the same,
because I tried to copy the dimensions from one to the other,
but somewhere along the line I didn’t do it quite right.
Neither model is super professional;
they’re quick models, the modelling time is very similar,
so let’s look at the IFC export that has been done for each of them.
Let’s see the differences and let’s see
what we have from each of them.
We’re going to see the differences and we’re going to see
what we have from each of
them. To do this, what I’ve done is I’ve
put them in a viewer, well, I’ve
put them on a CD, I’ve put them in Trimble
Conneet and I have one here that is from
Rebit and another that is from
SketchUp. So, what I’m going to do
is select them and view them
directly in the 3D viewer.
Right, what I’ve done is, um, I’ve moved the one here
from SketchUp a little bit
so that you can see both of them together, and
then we’ll take a look at what
has come from the IFC of each of
them. Eh, this one here is the one that comes
from Revit and this one is the one that comes from
Sketchap. I should mention that in Sketchap
I work with, eh, different colours,
quite bright ones, which allow me to
generate the plans or deliverables, eh,
in an easy way. Eh,
I could add textures to make them
look like

Let me tell you that in SketchUp,
I work with different colours,
quite bright ones, which allow me
to generate the plans or deliverables
in an easy way. I could add textures to make them
look like Revit, but it’s not a
requirement, it’s something specific to
my modelling style and not to SketchUp
itself. If we look at the models,
you can see that here,
this one has the site number 001,
the project, that is, the building says
default, no, sorry, this is the
site.
Eh, well, this must be the site. This
must be the building, these are the
building stories. Eh, I don’t know why it says
default. I think it had a name. Here
the same thing happens, the default side, default
building, the levels do have
names. I really don’t know where
it comes from, but anyway, I don’t
think it’s the most important thing.
If we take level one here and isolate it,
we see that we have level one here. If I take
level one here and isolate it, we see that we
have something similar. And the same thing
happens with level two and level two. Okay, well, if we
restore the model, we can see that
within each of the
levels, in one way or another,
all the elements that have been
modelled in both the Revit model
and the SketchUp model are present.
Okay?
You can see that here, well, the names
are a little more organised, because
the way of naming is
more specific in SketchUp and Revit, If we make, for example, a

section, we see that we saw that

the ceilings are modelled, apart from the

slab, there are the modelled ceilings. Eh,

this form of visualisation is because

the spaces are overlapping. If

we take it and say that we don’t

want to see the spaces, the

model looks quite, eh, more curious.

We see that, well, we have our

doors, our partitions, our windows.

In other words, here the material I’ve

given it is not a translucent material.

Well, that’s one thing I could improve

when modelling. Eh, I told you that the

modelling time is very similar. It’s

true that it took me a little longer to

model the Sketchap one, because

I tried to make the windows that

were in Revit the same size in Sketchat,

with the sill at the same height, and that

took me a little longer.

I should mention that I took the first

window that came in the architecture template

from Revit, that is, I modelled without

any finesse. Is that

right? For example, I realised here that I put

this wall upside down. Well, the joints

probably haven’t been reviewed, that is,

it’s a model that has been modelled to

compare one with the other. I’ve taken

the same care with SketchUp as I did

with Revit, and as you can see, the models

are quite similar. OK?

Eh, let’s reset the model and

let’s continue looking at things.

Hey, let’s reset the model and

keep looking at things. Well, this

is the structure of the IFCs.

Let’s fold each one of them

and see what else we can see.

If we look at the layers that

come up, let’s go and let’s go, eh,

let’s select them all, let’s

hide them and let’s see what

comes up from each of them. Well, this

one here, eh,

let’s see,

this one here, I don’t know what it has.

I’m going to hide them. Hidden. Okay. And now

I’m coming to this one here.

This one has nothing. Well, this must be

from the spaces. If I activate the

spaces again,

okay? Indeed, this one comes from the

spaces.

This one here is the ceilings,

they must be the columns. I don’t know what

I did here, to be honest, I took some

architectural pillars and, well,

it wasn’t the best decision. The

doors,

the floors,

the windows,

the curtain wall panels, the

what appear to be the curtain wall

studs,

the walls, and these look like the

facade walls in SketchUp. This is what

the vertical cladding is, the

vertical plastering.

I used the same material for all the floors,

the ceilings, the

pillars,

the slabs, the façade, just the part

of the block,

eh, sorry, here this is what

the interior walls of Revit are, the

sanitary ware of SketchUp, eh, this is the

geometry drawn in, let’s say, what

would be the equivalent of layer zero, eh,

the sanitary ware of Revit, the tr

Revit sanitary ware, SketchUp cladding,

SketchUp interior partition walls and

SketchUp spaces. It’s at the layer level.

Let’s turn them around. Right, let’s

reset the model and take a look at the

links here. We don’t have any tasks or

views, right? Let’s go to the organiser.

In the organiser, what I’ve done is create In the

organiser, what I’ve done is create a

kind of set of rules so that it picks up

the equivalences between one

and the other. So, let’s

start, for example, by looking at the classes.

And as you can see, well, there is a difference

between the classes of each of

them. If I take this and tell it to

isolate, well, Sketchap takes

the curtain walls and treats them as a

single unit.

If we isolate the toilets here, I don’t

know if it was my mistake, I put it as

flow, I could swear I put terminal flow,

but well, maybe I was wrong and

put flow element. Eh, member and FC

member, they will be the uprights of the

curtain wall and FC Space. As you can see,

here I also realised that I hadn’t

discounted the pillar. My mistake,

but a modelling error, not an export error.

FC Plate. Well, the walls, that is,

the glass of the curtain wall,

the pillars,

the slabs. Here’s the difference.

Well, the slabs are modelled as

Well, the slabs are modelled as

composites. Here I modelled the floor and the

ceiling separately.

The doors, as you can see, well, here, eh,

as the second-level contours are exported,

eh, each of the

doors must bring The doors, as you can see, well, here, eh,

as the second-level contours are exported,

eh, each of the doors must have its own partition.

The coverings, well, here the coverings

only come on the ceilings, and here,

as coverings, the ceilings are modelled,

the floors are modelled, and

the exterior cladding of the façade is also modelled.

The The

plaster is like covering. Flow

terminal, well, flow terminal

comes with its own space for the

second level outline. Eh, the

windows are the same and the walls, well,

here the walls are quite similar.

If we look at the material,

well, we see that there are differences

between how the material is exported

SketchUp and how it exports the material in

Revit. Eh, if you notice, eh, when I

assign a material in SketchUp,

each of the things eh has a

different colour. This means that the

block eh, for example, eh, the

material that I use to identify

the types of partition or the types of

translation, well, here it detects it as

IFC material. However, in Revit,

I think there are many things that

come depending on how the material has been

taken within

each of the parts of the

elements that are modelled. And as you can see,

there are many things that do not have

the IFC material assigned.

If we come here to the

names, this is a grouping by

name, by class and by model. Well,

here you can see that it is the most varied

Well, here you can see that it’s very varied,

because here are the names

of the families and here are the names

that have been given to each of the

elements. This would be,

for example, the office, and let’s see

something that comes from Revit. Let’s see

if the spaces are here.

Right, basic wall. Let’s go to this

one here. Right, this wall. And this

wall has windows, and each of the

windows has a different name, because

it’s exported with the Revit ID. Let’s reset the model and

see what else we can find

here. Eh, I’ve also done this

classification. Eh,

well, what I’ve done with this classification

is eh a rule that only takes

the areas of the spaces. Let’s see,

for example, the areas of the spaces.

Let’s go here. Eh, let’s go

here and eh, I have the

surfaces,

okay? Eh, visible objects and we have

here, well, Revit, each of the

spaces are here, I don’t know, I think

that here the space instead of

the name has taken the number, the

space number, and there are all the

elements that it has associated with the

spaces.

Eh, in Sketch, well, in Sketchap we have

here, eh,

in defoldor.

M,

okay, what I wanted here is I’m going to

this here, I’m going to put the class and

I’m going to select only, I’m going to

select only the spaces, I’m going to

isolate them.

Okay, here I have the spaces, which was

what I wanted to analyse. Well,

eh

I don’t know why I have this here. Ah, well, that

the class

m the

m the class

I don’t know why Revit appears. Well,

these are the things

that are theoretically assigned to each of the

spaces. Ah, no, here

they are. Okay, these are the things

that are there. I’m going to isolate this.

Well, it must be, okay? These are the

spaces, okay? Here are the spaces, because

each one has its own number. You can see that

we have the net surface area of each

of them. 358.96

and in SketchUp we have 356.65

because I’ve made some partitions

a few centimetres or millimetres

wider or something, but anyway, the

surface area will be pretty

similar, I imagine. This one here, if we look at the

information,

the surface area

is 5.44

5.44

and this one here is

5.44. As you can see, the surface area is

the same. Here I have the value that

SketchUp puts in numeric format and this one in

stream format with square metres

similar to this one. All these values

can be retrieved by any

measurement software

with IFC. And I don’t know what else we can see.

Let’s reset the model. I think

we’ve done some sectioning.

Well, we can change the visibility a little bit

so you can see.

Well, what do we have here? Let’s see

the cutaway plan again. And

well, this is what we have. If

we deactivate

the spaces, eh,

if we deactivate the spaces, OK? They are

very deactivated. I don’t know, this must be

from eh from the overlap of the

cutaway plane, but well, as you can see, the

models are quite similar, the

IFC export is quite similar and

except for the colours The IFC export is quite similar, and

except for the colours or materials that

I applied myself, which came from the

default families that I chose,

there isn’t much difference. And

well, this is what I wanted to see.

As you can see, there is no

big difference between the two. Well,

the information that Revit exports is

greater because it includes a lot of

parameters that come by default in the

families, but if you modify something in

the family, not everyone modifies them.

And here, the And here, the

information that comes in is the information

that we really want to

include.

As I said, I haven’t modelled with

particular precision. What I have

done is check the Building Smart validation service

and I’ve entered

both IFCs, and there you have the pros and

cons. The

step syntax is okay for both. This is

the one from Revit and this is the one from

SketchUp. The diagram, well, there’s

a little problem here in the one from

Revit. The one from SketchUp seems to be

fine. Neither of these two

passes. They’re probably problems with

quick modelling. This one

here passes in Revit. This one here,

this little triangle, I think it’s because of the

georeferencing that SketchUp doesn’t do.

That means that if it were georeferenced,

we would probably have three out of four,

but as you can see, well,

the proof is that at least 50%

pass, both of them pass, and there’s no big

difference. As for what the

IFC standard is and what the good ones are,

the viewers, that is, the elements that

each of the models exports.

What I can do is

share, I can and I can

share the link. I can

share the link. I’m going to copy it, I’m going to

put it here and

I’m going to share it with any user

who has the link. I’m going to set an

expiry date. Let’s set it to, for

example, a week.

Eh, let’s put it

here

and let’s click on share. I’m going to

copy the links

and I’m going to paste them here so that I can

share them later. Keep in mind that

well, that until November is 16th

of November and so that you can see that

this here, let’s give it, for example,

that we want to open a new private window

and we’re going to come here

and

we’re going to paste the address here,

eh? Control V

and we see,

well, that it’s not the same because it’s a

version, that is, it’s a model, it’s a link

that is generated for free, but

you can see each of the

models separately and see, well,

you can see the sections,

we can see information about

some of the elements. Eh, well, you

can see the information that exports

the one and the other. Well, I’ll

leave it in the description of the

video in case anyone wants to, eh, in

this week, see something of what

each of the models contains.

And that’s all. As you can see, eh,

I think the difference from one

model to another is not exaggerated. And

the price of each As you can see, eh,

I think that the difference between one

model and another is not exaggerated. E

the price of each of them, because the

truth is that it is. And for

people who need to do

normal, simple modelling,

as you can see, Sketchap

is up to the task, in my opinion,

and you can do great things with

Sketch. Well, see you in another video.

The above is my sketchy copy paste from Deepl- I was limited to 1500 characters at a time which is why things are not exactly flowing- But hopefully it’s understandable.

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It’s now in English too. Youtube made the audio in English possible.

When I specify English the captions disappear for me.

If I choose Subtitles (translation) I can choose the language…

Yes I did that but when I did the titles just disappeared for me. Very strange.

Wow I got flagged for “spam” for posting the translation. I was only trying to help. I’m sorry guys- I promise not to provide translations in the future. :melting_face:

hmmm probably because it was a very long and oddly formated message. someone might not have understood it was a translation

if you want to avoid the anti-long message police, you should try the “hide detail” mode :
select your text, and click there

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OK got it, thanks.

Wow, I’m sorry. I know your intention was to help. I hope that it was something automatic and not someone who bothered the translation.

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Why not try the Speckle way? It’s the easiest way to exchange data between CAD, BIM, and 3D design tools. All you need are Speckle connectors installed in both applications you want to share data between—and that’s it! You can send and receive data as easily as selecting the objects you want. Plus, you don’t even need SketchUp Studio to do it.

I’m not exchanging data between softwares. I’m exporting my model to a standard exchange format. And I don’t need SketchUp Studio for that.

Speckle doesn’t exchange all the data attached to the SketchUp components, only a few of them, IFC does.

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